10 February 2017

Give Postman Pat lots of PCNs

Mr Mustard notices things. In late 2016 he noticed that the Royal Mail, whose liveried vehicles he thought had a countrywide exemption (which he can't find) for parking on double yellow lines were being issued with PCN by Barnet Council at a fair old lick. He went to the parking tribunal website and searched 2016 for all Appellant company names which started with 'Royal Mail'. He found 68 entries across London. There are 32 London boroughs along with the City + TfL who dish out PCN so you would only expect 2 or 3 of those 68 to emanate from Barnet Council. How wrong he was. 32 of the PCNs were issued by Barnet Council which shows a clear indication that the council and/or their agents NSL Ltd had decided that the Royal Mail were fair game.

Mr Mustard has copied the Barnet decisions for you.





The first thing you notice is that there were no parking tickets issued from January to June. Did Royal Mail van drivers suddenly individually decide to change their parking habits? No, it is probably that someone instructed traffic wardens to issue PCNs to them. Mr Mustard will ask the parking manager to reverse that instruction.

This idea of targeting the Royal Mail has been a right royal waste of time for the council. Every PCN issued leads to a small fee of just under 47p that they have to pay to London Councils and each Appeal to London Tribunals entails a fee of £33.32 (it will be £29.90 once Barnet Appeals can be started on line rather than by a form sent off in the post).

Let us suppose all the PCNs were at the £110 rate. If Royal Mail rolled over and paid them all Barnet would have gained £55 a time or £1,760

However they didn't as Royal Mail contested them all so Barnet Council had to pay out £33 for each PCN = £1,056 in fees. Out of the 32 Appeals, Barnet Council only managed to win one so they netted £110 for that leaving them nursing a net loss of £946. They have also wasted a lot of driver and management time and NSL's and their own and the tribunal's. Had Royal Mail only provided proof of a parcel being delivered in the case they lost, they would also have won that one.

What deeply concerns Mr Mustard is that on 24 out of 32 Appeals the council offered no evidence (which you find out when you click on the case number on the left on the public tribunal register but Mr Mustard knows that a blank location means the Appeal was a "Do not Contest" case). In every case Barnet Council (and/or NSL) will have rejected representations (possibly twice) made by Royal Mail and then suddenly decided when their bluff is called to cancel the PCNs after all. Mr Mustard does not know how many other PCNs there were which were cancelled at earlier stages.

Mr Mustard thinks it is an abuse of process, and a breach of the council's general duty at law to be procedurally fair, to use the PCN enforcement system in this cynical way.

Your parking reputation is in tatters Barnet Council and is it any wonder?

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard

9 February 2017

a 2 second penalty



Can you beat this. A PCN only one second into a no parking period?

How did it even get to Court?

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard

8 February 2017

Some councils are making it harder to challenge PCN

A public body has a general duty at law to be procedurally fair. They should not therefore add further stages into a process which is enshrined in law. Mr Mustard has noticed some councils (not Barnet) make you go through several extra input screens before you can actually state your challenge, this will exhaust some people whose attention span or determination is not as great as Mr Mustard's (Mr Mustard has been prompted to write this blog post because a gentleman who has asked for advice about an Ealing PCN did not know what his contravention code was. You have to know where to look as it is in tiny type).


You only need the 52 but having tested the system Mr Mustard has discovered that you can type in any existing code number and see what 'sage advice' is being given for that particular contravention code.

On the home page of Ealing Council (they are not the only guilty party, Southwark is the same & there will be others) you find this car icon to roll your mouse over


That changes the box to this one, click on 'Manage & View'

That takes you to this screen which you think will be the place where you make a challenge or representation (a challenge to an on street PCN or a representation to a postal PCN, Notice to Owner to Enforcement Notice - documents with similar purposes, to notify the vehicle Owner of a contravention)

Having chosen 'Challenge a parking ticket' you get to enter your PCN number and contravention code (a number from 01 to 99) in the boxes
Click continue and you then get offered some reasons to choose from. At this point Mr Mustard ignores the proffered options and simply clicks 'continue' as he does not need to read any partial, misguided advice.
However, for the purposes of the blog he duly clicked. He found he was only allowed to click 4 reasons so he pressed F5 and could then click the rest. Why would a council want to limit the public's search for information?
For funerals a council could ask for more information or they could take account of the tone of the challenge and perhaps decide that the person is telling the truth. They do not have to check, it is an option. Why should the public trust a council which does not trust them?

The phrase 'the PCN remains valid' is misleading. It was certainly validly issued but it wasn't valid if it contained an error in the street name or bore the wrong registration number or if the traffic warden put it back in their pocket having not served it for some reason. Don't rely on non-service as a reason to challenge, find some other ground of representation. Mr Mustard is merely pointing out here the misleading language which councils use in an effort to get you to give up and pay (Mr Mustard doesn't do that).


Ealing Council seem to have omitted all sorts of other possible reasons, such as 'I was not the Owner of the vehicle' which is a statutory ground so this is very poor of them.

A sign that prohibits all vehicles (including cycles except if pushed) has no words. It is a round white sign with a red border. (Hardly anyone seems to recognise that sign). The flying motorbike sign (a motorbike on top of a car) does not mean that motorbikes and cars are prohibited but all motor vehicles and so Ealing's explanation about picturing the type of vehicle is just plain wrong.

I'm a visitor, I wasn't aware of the rules (which is a naughty way to try and get you to implicate yourself) could have the explanation that the rules were not properly signed.

You could live in Ealing and still be the victim of cloning.

The advice that Ealing are giving needs to be clear, comprehensive, accurate and meet with the Regulations & any Court decisions; it doesn't.



Loading; if you were moving home and unloading your possessions then you won't have loading paperwork but you might have a new rental agreement which it would be better to produce. If you are helping a friend then a letter from them is the best thing to produce.

Not everyone uses a breakdown emergency service. If you break down and your partner is handy with mechanical things, they may have come out to help you, or a friend or neighbour. Best to produce a letter from them explaining what happened. 

There is not a 24 hour limitation. If the breakdown was following an accident after which you were hospitalised for 48 hours that would be a reason beyond your control and grounds for cancellation.

If you do as Mr Mustard does and ignore all the peripheral nonsense and simply click continue, then you get this screen. Ealing are not helpful, they make you enter your registration number again. Really, Ealing, anyone would think you were trying to make it difficult for the motorist.

https://ealing.xrxpsc.com/OCM/Default.aspx
Would you like to cut out the cr@p & go straight to that screen, then simply click here.

Mr Mustard then thought he would make a quick comparison of the sage advice being dished out by Southwark for code 01 to see if it was the same, it wasn't.


Their loading explanation is better except that you don't have to have multiple items so a single trip is fine, unlike what Southwark say. A fridge, new or used, is one item and it is usually bulky &/or heavy so counts as a load. You do not have to provide official paperwork as you might have an old fridge which you are lending or giving to a friend as you have purchased a new one.

To cut the cr@p in Southwark, use this link.

Local authorities, eh, what can you do with them.

Mr Mustard's conclusion is that some councils don't really want you to challenge your PCN, just to pay it. That process has of course been made really easy.

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard

7 February 2017

Enterprise Car Club - why Mr Mustard won't join it


Mr Mustard has helped a few motorists with PCNs after they have rented a car, both from car rental firms and from car clubs, which are sometimes not clubs but commercial outfits calling themselves a club. He has seen administration fees for PCNs which range from the perfectly reasonable £12 to the extortionate £55 but that is a story for another day.

He had a no right turn on Highgate High Street to deal with and he knew it was eminently winnable due to confusing signage but Enterprise Car Club insisted on paying the PCN. Mr Mustard decided to email them about joining (even though he wasn't going to)


Dear Sirs

I'm not a member yet but your club could be handy sometimes.

I'm worried about if I get a parking PCN. I always fight them as I always park legally.

Your terms imply that I have to pay it

otherwise you will pay it (and the discount period will have passed) and I won't have the chance to fight it & you will add £30 on top.

What policy do you routinely adopt please?

Yours faithfully

A reply was received quite quickly, as follows:


Good afternoon,

Thank you for your email.

If you were to receive a PCN during a reservation with us then you could pay that yourself as you would if it was your own vehicle. Unfortunately if a PCN is given due to your parking at the end of your booking for example. Then because you wouldn’t know about it then we pay it and pass the charge onto your self.

I hope this answers your question.

Kind regards,

Clubhouse Team Member – Enterprise Car Club

No mention of making a challenge to the PCN, only information about paying, what if the PCN was given in error?

Also, their website is wrong as parking tickets are the initial legal responsibility of the Owner of the vehicle. There are provisions for car rental companies to pass on the liability (except for bus lanes) by responding to the Notice to Owner for properly documented rentals up to 6 months in duration.

I think that all car rental companies and car clubs (genuine clubs or commercial outfits) should offer the hirer the opportunity to challenge the PCN to the very end if they so wish.

Your legal right to dispute a PCN should not be removed from you by the rental agreement.

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard

6 February 2017

RingGo = Wrong Go


It happens reasonably often that motorists, who have used RingGo in other boroughs, turn straight to it as the default App for paying by phone and then find they have paid to park in some distant location, far away from Barnet. Each council probably wins as much as it loses from these errors and could take a stance of cancelling PCNs at least once a year for any motorist to whom this happens. Of course they don't, they make motorists fight them all the way to the tribunal. Twice in a month two different adjudicators came to the same conclusion, that the motorist should not suffer a penalty. Here are the two decisions in the words of the adjudicators.

The appellant and the driver, Mr L attended the hearing.

Mr L made payment through Ringo for the correct location and correct VRM. Payment was not made through Pay By 'Phone.

Crucially the payment was accepted and Mr L received a receipt for the payment.

When he returned to the vehicle and found the penalty notice he found the officer, who had issued it.

According to Mr L the officer said, "Lots of people make the same mistake. Appeal and they will cancel it!" (The traffic warden will lie to you. Ask them politely but firmly to put the facts in their notes on their hand held equipment in front of you).

On the basis of this statement by the officer, Mr L believes that the instructions, namely the signage is misleading.

The local authority has provided evidence of the time plate. There is no other evidence of a payee, apart form the telephone number on the time plate.

There is no evidence of a PayByPhone logo that you see on payment machines.

The wording on the time plate "Pay by phone" is an instruction. It does not indicate the payee, 'PayByPhone'.

There is of course a telephone number on the time plate.

Had that been followed then the correct payee, it is assumed, would have been located.
Nevertheless the evidence shows that the payment went through and the appellant was given an expectation that he had duly paid.

Mr L showed me in the hearing room that such payments are now blocked by the Ringo system. He demonstrated it on his 'phone.

This blocking suggests to me that there was something wrong with the payment system when Mr L's payment was made; that it was faulty.

It has been held that signage must not be misleading.

My finding is that the instruction on the time plate is open to misunderstanding and therefore misleading.

This together with the fact that the system now blocks such misunderstandings permits me to allow this appeal.

The appellant attended the hearing arranged for 6 December. The Council did not send a representative.The appellant is an experienced user of electronic systems for payment of parking charges.

I will mention at the outset that in the Council case summary prepared for this hearing I believe there to be an error on the second page where the Council referred to a Bay Locator number 5928. This I think is a clerical error for 5828 but it is not an error fortunately which is significant to the issues which are at the heart of this case. (Mr Mustard thinks this demonstartes how easy it is for an error to occur and is why councils should not punish little errors, as they also make them & don't have to pay a penalty).

The officer responsible for the penalty charge notice was not at fault as he checked the relevant system and could not identify any record of relevant payment.

What happened was that the appellant used the Ringgo app which took payment for Bay Locator Code 5828.

The Council emphasises that the Ringgo software advised him that this was payment for a Harbour Drive (a location in Enfield).

The relevant location where parked was however Station Road Edgware in the Borough London Barnet.

As I understand it there are broadly two principal firms which are providing services to London boroughs for electronic parking. One is Ringgo and the other Pay by Phone.

Occasionally councils change their contractor which gives rise to potential scope for mistakes, but there is nothing I have seen emerging in this appeal which gives rise to issues of that type.

The feature which emerges in this appeal and is at the heart of it is that the two firms do have in use some Bay Locator Codes which are identical.

On hearing from the appellant and considering the evidence overall I was initially surprised that Barnet had chosen to insist on payment of the penalty charge despite the obviously honest nature of the appellant mistake. There was no appellant intent to avoid payment and he had not made similar mistake before I believe.

The Council has advanced its case on the basis that it should have been very apparent to the appellant that he was required to transact with Pay by Phone and the Council has argued that there is very sufficient signage in the locality to indicate which is its contractor.

The appellant has shown me the lamppost a colour photograph of lamppost zero near the post near no 179 in the road concerned which shows the bay plate with without any supporting information about which particular contractor is in use.

The Council for its part has not brought photographic evidence to support its claim that the identity of the contractor was clear and obvious.

I have decided on that basis there is insufficient evidence to justify me in upholding the penalty charge. I have not identified sufficient evidence to prove the alleged contravention. I have thus recorded the appeal as allowed.

I have decided to add that the appellant in this case has vigorously pursued the dispute as he wished to reduce the scope for other motorists falling into similar position. I am not sure how practicable it would be for the major firms involved to introduce in cooperation a system of unique numbers which could reduce errors of this type. If it is not practicable, and it may be too late now for convenient changes, I believe that councils should at least look leniently on motorists who fall into this type of mistake, on the first occasion at least.

In any event I have decided to record this appeal as allowed on the basis that the Council has not sufficiently supported its arguments about the clarity of information given in Station Road.

Other providers of a payment by mobile telephone service are available. I expect that they all cost as much, if not more than, what a suite of parking meters would cost to run (one interim parking manager told Mr Mustard they they did not save money). Even with what they do charge, some don't even make a profit, as the published Accounts clearly show:



Punishing people who have made an innocent error is not the way to drive improvements to the satisfaction index of the public with Barnet Parking Services. 

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard

Enfield PCN - no address to write to

Mr Mustard currently has an Appeal running at London Tribunals on the basis that the PCN does not contain an address to which to write. Enfield Council think that providing a web address is adequate and Mr Mustard thinks that as the Regulations were written in 2007, when computers were less common, they are referring to a postal address. He also thinks that is necessary in order to comply with the Equality Act as those people (disproportionately elderly or disabled) who don't have a computer will be at a disadvantage.

The odd thing is that once the Notice to Owner is issued that contains an address which is:

Enfield Parking Services
c/o NSL Ltd
PO Box 65732
First Floor
London
N13 9BL

so do use that if you prefer writing. Always use the Signed For service (it costs £1.74, money well spent)

What the council have done is rather than nudge you into using the on line system is to bludgeon you into it as you are left with no choice and if you do not respond to the PCN placed on your car you lose the chance to challenge and preserve the discount at the same time.

What Mr Mustard wants to know is if you have complained about the lack of an address as Enfield Council say that only Mr Mustard has complained (Mr Mustard can usually be bothered to complain whereas the public tend not to, especially in a techncial area like parking regulations).

You can of course add to any current PCN that you are challenging (only one placed on your car or put into your hand) the argument that the PCN is not compliant as it does not contain a physical address and that was the way in which you had wanted to communicate, i.e. by Royal Mail.

This is part of what Enfield Council have just told the tribunal:

However, the Council recognises a postal address would assist members of the public and will look to re-introduce this on the schedule 9 penalty charge notice (i.e. ones put on your vehicle).

If they win the day on the Appeal Mr Mustard thinks they won't bother.

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard

It is always the motorist's fault, even council failure



Barnet Council worry about their reputation, with parking being one of the lowest regarded performers, and is it any wonder, based upon this lost tribunal Appeal which was won on Review. Less determined motorists than this Appellant are easy to find and the council would have unfairly gained £60.

The Appeal

Neither party to the proceedings attended.

I now determine the appeal on the papers before me.

There is no dispute that this vehicle was parked without payment of the parking charge.

The appellant's case is that on seeking to pay the charge by phone there was a recorded message stating that the system was out of order and that she should try again later. This she did without success. She says that she did not then re-park the vehicle because she assumed given it was a system error that all bays would be affected.

I note what is said but I am not satisfied on the council's case it providing confirmation from its Pay by Phone service provider that there was no down time on its payment system on the relevant day that there was any fault with it.

I find the contravention proved.

The appeal is refused.

The Review

By a Decision dated 13th October 2016, made after a consideration of the papers, the Adjudicator, Andrew Harman, dismissed the Appeal.

The Appellant attended a Personal Hearing before me today,16th November 2016, to make a Review Application in respect of that Decision, and explain her contention personally.

There is no right of further Appeal from an Adjudicator's decision under the Road Traffic Act 1991, although an Application under paragraph 12 (3) of the Schedule to the Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) Representations and Appeals Regulations 2007 may be made if one (or more) of the Grounds set out in the Regulations applies.

Those grounds are very restricted in scope, as the inherent part of the Adjudication scheme is to ensure the finality and conclusiveness of an Adjudicator's Decision.

Accordingly the party seeking a Review must first establish the existence of a ground so to do; this is the initial 'Application' stage. It is only if this is established that a ‘Review,’ i.e. review and then revocation or upholding of the original Decision of the afore-mentioned Adjudicator, can take place.

The Application

The original Decision was made on the Personal Hearing date, after an examination of the argument on the papers, due to the non-attendance of the Appellant.

The Appellant had indicated her preference for a Personal Hearing on the Appeal form, by ticking the appropriate box. In addition, the Appellant had annotated the form with dates clearly stating her non-availability.

Notwithstanding the same, a Hearing had been re-scheduled to such a date.

Further, the email notification of that scheduling had not been received into the Appellant's email address in-box; having, unbeknownst to the Appellant, been diverted to 'junk.'

The Decision letter itself, was the Appellant's first knowledge that a Hearing date had been set, and missed by her.

I accepted that there was sufficient reason for a Review Hearing; for the Appellant's benefit I explained that a Review Hearing is in effect a hearing of the Appeal matter de novo.

Since no new issues arise requiring a response from the Enforcement Authority, I will proceeded with the Hearing.

The Review

There is no dispute as to the whereabouts of the vehicle, at the relevant time, on the material date; namely at a location subject to a restriction requiring the purchase of parking time by telephone/text payment.

The Enforcement Authority assert the absence of payment in respect of the said vehicle.

The Appellant denies liability for the ensuing Penalty Charge Notice on the basis of the prevailing circumstances as stated in her written representations, which she reiterated and comprehensively detailed at the Hearing.

The Enforcement Authority who assert that the said vehicle was so parked contrary to, and during the operative period of, a restriction are obliged to adduce evidence to the requisite standard to substantiate that assertion.

The evidence upon which the Enforcement Authority rely comprises the certified copy Penalty Charge Notice, extracts of governing Traffic Management Order provisions, and contemporaneous notes made by the Civil Enforcement Officer together with photographic evidence: still frames revealing the said vehicle in situ and the applicable signage notifying motorists of the restriction.

I note that the restriction at the location does not afford the motorist an alternative means [e.g. machine/meter payment] of compliance with the purchase of parking time regime.

The Enforcement Authority adduce an annotated map/plan and image; these are of limited, if any, evidential value since (1) the knowledge of the annotator is unknown and (2) the annotation relates to a permit holder restriction.

The Enforcement Authority also adduce computer generated printouts and an email exchange from the telephone payment service provider regarding the suggestion of a 'fault' in the system at the material time; the appellant had not raised the issue of a 'fault' but rather had recounted that the automated instruction was to 'try again' with which she complied.

I am concerned that the Enforcement Authority appear to criticize the Appellant for not submitting 'supporting evidence' when none had been requested.

The Appellant indicated the purpose of her business at the location and described a sequence of events consistent with her endeavouring to comply with the parking regime. The Appellant informed that she was a long-standing registered user of the telephone payment scheme who regularly parked in the vicinity and was adept at utilising the service.

On the particular occasion the recorded voice instructed her to 'try again' and that is what she did in order to complete the transaction.

A motorist must be afforded sufficient reasonable time to comply with the requirements of a parking regime, whether that be attending at a voucher-dispensing machine or obtaining and completing a visitor's permit, or indeed completing a telephone/text payment transaction.

The Appellant bought to the Hearing a copy of her relevant mobile device bill itemising calls and establishing the times and durations of calls to the pertinent number on the date in question.

I find the Appellant's evidence to be cogent and credible and I accept it in its entirety, making a finding that the Appellant was in the process of an activity consistent with endeavouring to effect compliance with the parking regime at the point of issue of the Penalty Charge Notice.

Evidentially I am not satisfied that a contravention occurred, accordingly I set aside the Decision of 13th October 2016 and I allow this Appeal.

Sometimes what the council do beggars belief. The evidence shows that the motorist concerned is a regular user of the PayByPhone system, a model citizen you might think, and the only reason they had not paid before the PCN was issued was because the council's chosen system was 'out of order'.

Mr Mustard thinks that the other thing that was out of order was the council in rejecting representations from a law abiding motorist doing their best to pay and putting them to the time and trouble of making probably two lots of representations, then completing the Appeal form and then requesting a Review, having to pay the PCN and then get their money back after the Review, then having to get themselves up to Chancery Lane for a hearing along with the attendant stress when all they have done wrong is to be in Barnet, where the council claims on letterheads from parking that reject your perfectly good representations, that it is 'Putting the community first'. Mr Mustard thinks they must have meant community chest having muddled up what they are doing with Monopoly and the council is the banker.

Behaving as you do Barnet Council offends the public's sense of injustice and Mr Mustard thinks that it is a grave injustice to punish those who seek to comply with the stupid system which has been imposed in Barnet. With meters this sort of thing didn't happen. If the first meter was broken you simply paid at the next one.

It is OK to offer PayByPhone as a choice but even the BPA recognise its deficiencies, so don't let it be the only choice.

This damage to your reputation, Barnet Council, is 100% self inflicted. 

Best choose reputation or revenue, you can't have both.

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard