tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-41890213355792224702024-03-17T18:42:53.247+00:00Mr Mustard (mrmustard@zoho.com)Helping the mentally or physically ill, the elderly & the poor to fight Council PCNs.
Writing about blunders, democracy and profligacy at Barnet Council.Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.comBlogger2055125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-17345209642577089082024-03-17T18:42:00.001+00:002024-03-17T18:42:08.388+00:00Nonsense from Newham<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiT2dyM1kDLsRSopqgtsf0tcJToUI15XGZWXii-g-IYiJQb99YFOTrUZG2KRGQ_8SBOg6OCSyyN7k25n4bysjpXvFzBjt4vPygDD_eKQVlXG7LefvfolDWUQfqmyQgw6XLYApC-d2xvU0HK9pEwWgqHdy8xNsVLfhKV9WrZONfqAYNuG2YzG8w39KW8wiE/s1562/hilda%20road.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="843" data-original-width="1562" height="346" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiT2dyM1kDLsRSopqgtsf0tcJToUI15XGZWXii-g-IYiJQb99YFOTrUZG2KRGQ_8SBOg6OCSyyN7k25n4bysjpXvFzBjt4vPygDD_eKQVlXG7LefvfolDWUQfqmyQgw6XLYApC-d2xvU0HK9pEwWgqHdy8xNsVLfhKV9WrZONfqAYNuG2YzG8w39KW8wiE/w640-h346/hilda%20road.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Parking departments don't live in the real world. It isn't the intended function of penalty charge notices to make the life of people with limited mobility any harder. It is as many motorists would say, all about the money.<br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here we have a case of a good son collecting his dad, who uses a stick, from the mosque on a Tuesday evening towards 8pm. The son parked as near as he could which was on the double yellow lines in Hilda Road just out of picture (which was excluded as it is pixellated for some reason).</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Whilst he went inside to find his father and then slowly come out to the car due to his use of a walking aid, a PCN was issued with a 2 minute observation. The son made his own challenge, probably expecting it to be accepted (reasonable but optimistic these days) but it wasn't, as follows:</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLGB_sGcRR_mmjiMY5TXwD0x86AnobKX86prk8IADcdx82sGv-XKqg1bkp4FXzlURUqeG7EMoxf-Uzc7uoUP9l5lERAh4Q7KHmHZ9wHBlIL4iWJrendmQKafvHyUd_-Onc1xBrZ59XcmN1DcPtN0JLJXLa1XrRoVeXLl2yp0UXjiPQ6PZTcRbbpU0ibAA/s617/3.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="596" data-original-width="617" height="618" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhLGB_sGcRR_mmjiMY5TXwD0x86AnobKX86prk8IADcdx82sGv-XKqg1bkp4FXzlURUqeG7EMoxf-Uzc7uoUP9l5lERAh4Q7KHmHZ9wHBlIL4iWJrendmQKafvHyUd_-Onc1xBrZ59XcmN1DcPtN0JLJXLa1XrRoVeXLl2yp0UXjiPQ6PZTcRbbpU0ibAA/w640-h618/3.PNG" width="640" /></a></div>The rejection makes it sound like Newham Council only very rarely (exceptional circumstances) cancel a PCN. They are required to have due regard to the statutory guidance of the Secretary of State which includes:</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /><span style="color: #2b00fe;">Authorities should take account of the <abbr title="civil enforcement officer">CEO</abbr>’s
actions in issuing the penalty charge but should always give challenges
and representations a fresh and impartial consideration.</span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><span style="color: #2b00fe;"></span></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><p><span style="color: #2b00fe; font-family: verdana;">Under general principles of public law, authorities have a duty to
act fairly and proportionately and are encouraged to exercise discretion
sensibly and reasonably and with due regard to the public interest.
Failure to act in accordance with the general principles of public law
may lead to a claim for a decision to be judicially reviewed.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #2b00fe; font-family: verdana;">Enforcement authorities have a duty not to fetter their discretion,
so should ensure that PCNs, NtOs, leaflets and any other advice they
give do not mislead the public about what they may consider in the way
of representations.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #2b00fe; font-family: verdana;">They should approach the exercise of discretion objectively and
without regard to any financial interest in the penalty or decisions
that may have been taken at an earlier stage in proceedings.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">What Newham Council have also forgotten is their own traffic order, which has this section:</span></p><p><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgABd4Wv0QnLXkY8rJqaZiLogSkKZPwaTdXrzQAfQYyzmH31QoA7lGmVkhnc_m8khOHa6VFd_2J4AjcLP6msVTx6J9deIbSbGIPkDJeTS5yKdL-7-k653i4JsvR25qYdrjyIBFzXc3L7hhfm1TeXFoAGrkMc4QaVKhHsjvWE5fGvJZOGXSroi_LrAPBJuQ/s1270/tmo%206.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="465" data-original-width="1270" height="234" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgABd4Wv0QnLXkY8rJqaZiLogSkKZPwaTdXrzQAfQYyzmH31QoA7lGmVkhnc_m8khOHa6VFd_2J4AjcLP6msVTx6J9deIbSbGIPkDJeTS5yKdL-7-k653i4JsvR25qYdrjyIBFzXc3L7hhfm1TeXFoAGrkMc4QaVKhHsjvWE5fGvJZOGXSroi_LrAPBJuQ/w640-h234/tmo%206.PNG" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"></td></tr></tbody></table><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The two minute rule doesn't apply as this is a little side road (not in Schedules 5 and 2) and not within the 2 minute limited times.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Therefore the time which is allowed, for a person who uses a stick or a frame or who simply walks slowly without any aids, due to age or infirmity, is as long as it takes. Newham Council have therefore unreasonably rejected a perfectly fair challenge (and also tried to put the motorist off a further challenge by the usual reminder that the discount will be gone at the next stage).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard doesn't much care for the discount expect for one of 100% as he fights to the end and generally knows the parameters an independent adjudicator, who makes decisions without an eye on the income, will apply. They will generally allow at least 5 minutes for assisted boarding. The frailty of a passenger can be demonstrated by a medical report, a photo of them with their stick or frame or a 10 second video of them walking.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard doesn't fear Newham Council. He has fought 38 of their PCNs since 2017 of which 24 went as far as the independent adjudicators. He has lost 2. He isn't about to lose a third case.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">To their credit, Newham Council weren't 100% unhelpful, they did add this to their letter:</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiKM2rft4TSHF7vzVAqZItgyJclPJPtihWN440RK9MTmegioSMA7anrDCYA0s8hCqiCWJaG7Z4s9xtOKDmg5ziHx98kvw0ihu0uHdCaaAFadNNOmYF7MLlnPtnaLWWt02OPP3Hor5MMgEXcpaUz01jHQjnJz9x5SomcINg3W8pynUYSVl_bq6IPYsz8XJs/s886/2.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="158" data-original-width="886" height="114" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiKM2rft4TSHF7vzVAqZItgyJclPJPtihWN440RK9MTmegioSMA7anrDCYA0s8hCqiCWJaG7Z4s9xtOKDmg5ziHx98kvw0ihu0uHdCaaAFadNNOmYF7MLlnPtnaLWWt02OPP3Hor5MMgEXcpaUz01jHQjnJz9x5SomcINg3W8pynUYSVl_bq6IPYsz8XJs/w640-h114/2.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">We only know that father walks with an aid, we don't know whether or not he could make his own application, which would be a more respectful way to write.</span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end (for now).<br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"> <br /></span></p></div>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-45196892633448957482024-03-04T10:50:00.005+00:002024-03-04T10:50:59.574+00:00Parasites<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard is used to perfectly good challenges being rejected. Mr Mustard isn't medically qualified but is an advanced motorist and a human being. The person, Mr Mustard uses the term loosely, who rejected the below motorist's challenge is none of the above (one can't be sure they aren't an IAM or ROSPA member but Mr Mustard doesn't want to be their passenger if the safety of a fitting passenger isn't their first priority.)</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj6aGJYgtGKdzUhowGtMWu5QRwxGVrCe3tNSXHSEkRtI3C8lpifQyjyLvzOZHLmpYWSgkaGWl03B616et-KetLBHz6LQw8uhCSnDS_yHmZggWCwrZFiwxH_zN3wuRchgb4Z7UH7YDw_q8zDuSIWEPBLXk8Z1wHkIg3wARYndfz1unhexa9YgKDVDJ3BOG0/s697/barsusp1.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="697" data-original-width="477" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj6aGJYgtGKdzUhowGtMWu5QRwxGVrCe3tNSXHSEkRtI3C8lpifQyjyLvzOZHLmpYWSgkaGWl03B616et-KetLBHz6LQw8uhCSnDS_yHmZggWCwrZFiwxH_zN3wuRchgb4Z7UH7YDw_q8zDuSIWEPBLXk8Z1wHkIg3wARYndfz1unhexa9YgKDVDJ3BOG0/w438-h640/barsusp1.PNG" width="438" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgPIvncuvMCOmdohnmKhrJ1-OqB0HFaQBQww9Z0xEE2nPiNEKlHuXhI8Fo-Y5icwKsjh5NZrs6TD4EY6eRuRBUY3R2JwzC4hWcY4Qk5LuCaoJxev18nd3oLpRO6AjxYqQnLphj5DPRHgYtJyvzejLROKZQXo6RRUS6i6ODdpTDy1eEUSw6gaSE4p61Zwn8/s472/barsusp2.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="161" data-original-width="472" height="218" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgPIvncuvMCOmdohnmKhrJ1-OqB0HFaQBQww9Z0xEE2nPiNEKlHuXhI8Fo-Y5icwKsjh5NZrs6TD4EY6eRuRBUY3R2JwzC4hWcY4Qk5LuCaoJxev18nd3oLpRO6AjxYqQnLphj5DPRHgYtJyvzejLROKZQXo6RRUS6i6ODdpTDy1eEUSw6gaSE4p61Zwn8/w640-h218/barsusp2.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard thinks that many people will be absolutely astonished by this rejection. Mr Mustard wasn't as he sees similar rejections all the time and is one reason why he keeps winning at the tribunal as there is an absolute disconnect between common sense, fairness & safety and the relentless drive to fill multi million pound holes in council budgets.<br /></span><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Barnet Council aren't unusual in this respect partly because there is a small handful of unaccountable outsourcing companies who process PCNs, like NSL, as in this case, whose disconnected employees sit in remote back offices (Dingwall in Scotland and Oldham) have probably never visited Barnet and will never be face to face with a motorist and have to be utterly hateful to their face. The concept of public service has been lost.<br /></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Councillors are too hands off. Do they speak to parking management to ensure that all challenges are given a fair and impartial consideration without any thought as to the income as the Secretary of State requires? Based on this response, it would seem not.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Get yourself ready for a sudden goodwill (PR based) cancellation, the PCN was correctly issued, blah blah, a one off error by a new officer, blah blah.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard is on the case. The Notice to Owner is awaited and will be robustly challenged.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end, for now.<br /></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> <br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-12460445420758810692024-02-18T09:56:00.002+00:002024-02-18T09:58:00.929+00:00Councils can't afford to be kind<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">When he gets a fresh PCN Mr Mustard often has to warn people that, more likely than not, the council will not look kindly on the reason why they received the PCN. The council want your money, most of the time, and whilst they have a wide discretion, councils can cancel any PCN for any reason, the adjudicator cannot & must strictly apply the law. Adjudicators can only recommend that a council think again although Mr Mustard has seen them bend the law in order to excuse an error.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is a classic example of a situation in which Mr Mustard thinks the public would expect leniency to come into play but he wasn't at all surprised when it didn't. This is a situation which, other things being equal, will only happen the once.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The informal challenge submitted to Lewisham Council:</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwm6Azu2K1BGnOpDSD_TpjjIlLYDag1cTWLtPGevDmo03BbuAeYYG1aFxJY_7uHTEIuUUfeGErj9mi1V02OoSXyvFd35Sw1n0XWXjjMTPcQzMpdQHbNCpZrbMMGpkLINzkXDK4wYXWFjVWCs2vzA1Tiyj4wZJ0-0nGrfs6IF3ec0ksxfUCTsHeu_MoUgs/s683/agic.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="683" data-original-width="521" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjwm6Azu2K1BGnOpDSD_TpjjIlLYDag1cTWLtPGevDmo03BbuAeYYG1aFxJY_7uHTEIuUUfeGErj9mi1V02OoSXyvFd35Sw1n0XWXjjMTPcQzMpdQHbNCpZrbMMGpkLINzkXDK4wYXWFjVWCs2vzA1Tiyj4wZJ0-0nGrfs6IF3ec0ksxfUCTsHeu_MoUgs/w488-h640/agic.PNG" width="488" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">and the relevant part of their response:</span><p></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEguJd0bh61pIq0MI9BupJHq9pQ1BqGOMm1Tm-ZBxWosV0CSiVKzIKpCWIckHiM-8C_AKIyWHzuVC2nwPz-hA3SeXfME_IINye7e90kSDsAtdN4HFOsMlzPfEplIu9jSKiiT-amph6ixL1DLqQXjdMtGjkFdFKPd9SLcmMAIn99MsYIKv82pLgbRv5Vu48M/s567/inrefag.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="161" data-original-width="567" height="182" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEguJd0bh61pIq0MI9BupJHq9pQ1BqGOMm1Tm-ZBxWosV0CSiVKzIKpCWIckHiM-8C_AKIyWHzuVC2nwPz-hA3SeXfME_IINye7e90kSDsAtdN4HFOsMlzPfEplIu9jSKiiT-amph6ixL1DLqQXjdMtGjkFdFKPd9SLcmMAIn99MsYIKv82pLgbRv5Vu48M/w640-h182/inrefag.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">This is a Catch 22 response. There is no evidence that the writer thought about exercising their discretion. Their explanation is that because the contravention happened, which was already conceded by the motorist, the council won't cancel because the contravention happened.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">What should happen is that Lewisham Council should consider the mitigation put forward, decide if it has the ring of truth (why would you stay in a hotel in SE13 when you live in SE6?) which it does and then consider whether or not to cancel the PCN. There is no revenue loss to the council which didn't instigate an automatic refund of a payment for which no value was given (once you have a PCN you cannot get another the same day, unless the rules of the bay change, if you don't move).</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The rejection letter should explain why discretion is not being exercised, like one of these responses:</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">a<span> your proof is not credible</span></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><span>b<span> </span>we don't think the mitigation is sufficient as you could have paid the night before (if you can, although the driver might have been intending to get up early, buy flowers and attempt </span>a reconciliation)</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">c<span> </span>we want your money so won't cancel</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">d<span> we are venal and rapacious. (*</span> copyright another PCN expert, Incandescent).</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The law assumes that a public body endowed with absolute power will exercise that power in a manner which is fair in all the circumstances. Although this appeal for clemency can be argued both for and against what is apparent from hundreds of PCNs that Mr Mustard has seen is that in many councils heartlessness and ruthlessness are the order of the day (He does have good experiences, he recounted one with Islington Council on twitter last week but he sees far more bad than good).</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The problem is that councils are not routinely monitored or inspected for the way they go about the issue and enforcement of PCNs. We need an outside body which referees the whole system and can visit councils and encourage best practice and fairness. There are 7 million PCNs issued in London every year. Councils are out of control in their quest for revenue.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Time to create OffPen.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.<br /></span></p><p><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-32314066487600095572024-02-17T22:32:00.007+00:002024-02-22T10:06:51.255+00:00Hounslow Community Transport - breaching Human Rights<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">One always finds lovely cuddly statements on the websites of public facing organisations. Here is part of the HCT's claimed values:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-j_Vp0SxbYS0aZar6AYhuLZ75pe6HArUsWpOUeACpzV5Pvfawa4B16A690OYte8F5uKakulJH2RoRMR6DiTa9ogX4CXRno5mhR-IQGLBkTsxdxydHa_HMujSEyXZTgPZicgkA00_PeEBHekfzloJdUc7kjSVZusaT0kZWev8z7LmXOBMwWY07tQLVBz0/s516/values.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="232" data-original-width="516" height="288" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi-j_Vp0SxbYS0aZar6AYhuLZ75pe6HArUsWpOUeACpzV5Pvfawa4B16A690OYte8F5uKakulJH2RoRMR6DiTa9ogX4CXRno5mhR-IQGLBkTsxdxydHa_HMujSEyXZTgPZicgkA00_PeEBHekfzloJdUc7kjSVZusaT0kZWev8z7LmXOBMwWY07tQLVBz0/w640-h288/values.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Those values are looking like mere words on a screen today.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Look at this minibus parked outside of a space in the Montague Road, Hounslow car park.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-jIKjNTRDctBWtnPKTc2EJbDc5qwpBSjugxrrppXJmR5i3SLamd9Tb9f14Qjv10CVCbod0RiIGyIx2P2IygUZKnagLeEyjo0Z2CmiFPngxWWiI_V_LeznijJOxSsTr3NNaWyEuC4C4Qig8-ypDb5fUW2jN1DJnCJXUDB4brljnixhtwHYd-rIK6VsE4I/s2048/main%20blocker.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2048" data-original-width="1536" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-jIKjNTRDctBWtnPKTc2EJbDc5qwpBSjugxrrppXJmR5i3SLamd9Tb9f14Qjv10CVCbod0RiIGyIx2P2IygUZKnagLeEyjo0Z2CmiFPngxWWiI_V_LeznijJOxSsTr3NNaWyEuC4C4Qig8-ypDb5fUW2jN1DJnCJXUDB4brljnixhtwHYd-rIK6VsE4I/w480-h640/main%20blocker.jpg" width="480" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">What could be behind it, you might wonder? The answer is the car of a member of the public who parked in the dark and didn't see the little fairly well hidden sign.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0lntxpAsPsrpgGKFObsWEUO6B6wVQZU-dYjeWMglK4pWHNTUM9KrfpphsGtH4KbesKEx7G8Y6KdO9pQzpOFPEmmapQH9qK5BmVnYFiN7NqDJ48UUoC1CBIzlJjyrdhzLD1Pujd4wO37gAIpt73Fep0o600rPcEy2KNp5ojGTj4Qk55o_guCIBADfOzXs/s2048/sign%20behind%20car.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2048" data-original-width="1536" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0lntxpAsPsrpgGKFObsWEUO6B6wVQZU-dYjeWMglK4pWHNTUM9KrfpphsGtH4KbesKEx7G8Y6KdO9pQzpOFPEmmapQH9qK5BmVnYFiN7NqDJ48UUoC1CBIzlJjyrdhzLD1Pujd4wO37gAIpt73Fep0o600rPcEy2KNp5ojGTj4Qk55o_guCIBADfOzXs/w480-h640/sign%20behind%20car.jpg" width="480" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">What is to the side of the blue car?</span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Yes, you guessed it, another minibus .</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjeiF38KEZP0guIhVN2CGXzPHwHjNcp11aCDVjVLuoS2tMCJ8lGhKyMY-ouvyIo0yE-KsOAHi4rSVtauw8Zw9Udu33boMIMC3UkHL5OMo7W-f2Lj_jI_FQqom2OPzGLuJHT5jRsfaArdKoPnRWmUYqU-Zx67667bWqJhUCik00aZ50nUcwQPd5Z-DleoIc/s2048/blocked%20in.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2048" data-original-width="1536" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjeiF38KEZP0guIhVN2CGXzPHwHjNcp11aCDVjVLuoS2tMCJ8lGhKyMY-ouvyIo0yE-KsOAHi4rSVtauw8Zw9Udu33boMIMC3UkHL5OMo7W-f2Lj_jI_FQqom2OPzGLuJHT5jRsfaArdKoPnRWmUYqU-Zx67667bWqJhUCik00aZ50nUcwQPd5Z-DleoIc/w480-h640/blocked%20in.jpg" width="480" /></a></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The blocked in photos were taken at midnight. Mr Bluecar (not his real name) phoned up HCT and asked them for help. They declined and put the phone down. Not a very charitable act in the view of Mr Mustard. Mr Bluecar had to take the bus 6 miles to get home.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">HCT don't answer the phone on a Saturday morning so Mr Bluecar didn't know when he might be able to get his car back. He tried his luck late morning and he could drive away. There was however a piece of paper which caught his attention on the windscreen. It wasn't a rude note. Yes, you guessed it:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzZBbeWRAyIsujhE3dgHbRWu_B5yPLcUj8nm12B8A-zs9GY4DdOLtJy6Vcor-BYnN_Rjk23jRcL0N8cXJNh-b-phXdDSShTDZCvkLaUW75Ql6BhhYjZ7s_tUNWqVDUssKZfoUvTV0TbY_eNIRrv_lE_7vq2n73UAGjrdyPJRdi9HuTvpGjEko6QafIMF8/s539/mrbluecar.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="539" data-original-width="492" height="400" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzZBbeWRAyIsujhE3dgHbRWu_B5yPLcUj8nm12B8A-zs9GY4DdOLtJy6Vcor-BYnN_Rjk23jRcL0N8cXJNh-b-phXdDSShTDZCvkLaUW75Ql6BhhYjZ7s_tUNWqVDUssKZfoUvTV0TbY_eNIRrv_lE_7vq2n73UAGjrdyPJRdi9HuTvpGjEko6QafIMF8/w365-h400/mrbluecar.PNG" width="365" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has challenged the PCN on the grounds of events beyond the control of the driver.</span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has emailed HCT pointing out the relevant part of the Human Rights Act</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhRHNoOZYR7stDEPTpfr6qirsHvJCqkBzMd5Ibw0fxdBwRwMUWEFJDFJA4-4s8gCH_6oirglS-XpcUHHgbLWBd9cfqIHPSaCf2yEJFzDf1YhU99GmJ3u0pGonNX2derE0-BYzS_MDrSTcMBHoJl7DoEM4q6t9oe5faoPsTyXirzY8Kvj8BrncChwOKIcAM/s776/humrigact.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="240" data-original-width="776" height="198" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhRHNoOZYR7stDEPTpfr6qirsHvJCqkBzMd5Ibw0fxdBwRwMUWEFJDFJA4-4s8gCH_6oirglS-XpcUHHgbLWBd9cfqIHPSaCf2yEJFzDf1YhU99GmJ3u0pGonNX2derE0-BYzS_MDrSTcMBHoJl7DoEM4q6t9oe5faoPsTyXirzY8Kvj8BrncChwOKIcAM/w640-h198/humrigact.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard rather expects that management will not be as happy to break the law as one of their drivers was.</span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">We'll see. Watch this space.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end, for now.</span></p><p><span style="color: red; font-family: verdana;">Update 21 February. Hounslow Council responded quickly, they have cancelled the PCN. HCT not yet responded.<br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span><br /></p><p><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-9711983482698082972024-01-15T22:58:00.006+00:002024-01-15T23:02:40.064+00:00Westminster decide that 4 arguments do not a representation make<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">This might be a bit of a long read as a lot happened but if you want to know more about processing of a parking PCN it will be useful to you.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">We start on 6 September 2023 with a PCN being put on the car in Albemarle St. which has, Mr Mustard finds, associations at different times with Lord Byron and Oscar Wilde</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The sign, which the driver only spotted afterwards, was missed because it was within a suspended section and turned away.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEijwExQWHY33yEWaXA-TgtvZkf6NM6ZY-AbYVknF9xAkfjgM84jyHTMPFk4abEIKY65UKT6qJp22-Pt4yaX5JypObvIU7GpLZ6G5nOvt9NtdRnQWdMAwTzEJGDWETLzJ8oZ_1BZ7KDt-_X0r_YSGL5i4bCwqKp4MFSyvGLDzW9Z1DBKggYSi1nQhyUL4lQ/s540/sign%20turned%20away.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="480" data-original-width="540" height="568" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEijwExQWHY33yEWaXA-TgtvZkf6NM6ZY-AbYVknF9xAkfjgM84jyHTMPFk4abEIKY65UKT6qJp22-Pt4yaX5JypObvIU7GpLZ6G5nOvt9NtdRnQWdMAwTzEJGDWETLzJ8oZ_1BZ7KDt-_X0r_YSGL5i4bCwqKp4MFSyvGLDzW9Z1DBKggYSi1nQhyUL4lQ/w640-h568/sign%20turned%20away.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">After the event, on finding the PCN, the driver thought that the sign was the one above the suspended bay sign, the one we can see the back of. Mr Mustard wouldn't find himself in Westminster in a car but if he did he would be more inquisitive before concluding that a spot of free parking was in order. We were where we were. Although Mr Mustard acts regularly for the company which owns the car the driver decided to make their own challenge on the grounds of inadequate signage which they did on 20 September.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The City of Westminster rejected the informal challenge on the same day. Unusual and odd as the letter apologised for the delay in responding. Who said it was a cut and paste job? The letter didn't say why the challenge wasn't accepted just that they wouldn't cancel. This is an unhelpful trend which Mr Mustard has noticed creeping in during 2023.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">All then went quiet, as the driver wasn't sucked into paying at a discount, as she knew that the company would refer to Mr Mustard who usually finds something which which to attack the ticket. On 6 November the Notice to Owner was issued to the company as the registered keeper. On 10 November Mr Mustard was instructed and he rustled up the formal representations on the same day. He found four strands on which to make representations.</span></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQPHaTMZ5_kYxxB8dvR754II8U4EOos515MmDC7KW6LMique4V1ek-DqQNLVPNgGCPpmD5Ie24Gu42oXeF0cxX9yAfeIFYjzjsLAtmHWPZaFwuSKYWGWQN_h4ckyEHBhL1FVqexVJ4OUkoekD_ust4TouToplZxFK2IeqI8EAvDlCYhd3-zM5y1882VR0/s626/west1.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="333" data-original-width="626" height="340" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhQPHaTMZ5_kYxxB8dvR754II8U4EOos515MmDC7KW6LMique4V1ek-DqQNLVPNgGCPpmD5Ie24Gu42oXeF0cxX9yAfeIFYjzjsLAtmHWPZaFwuSKYWGWQN_h4ckyEHBhL1FVqexVJ4OUkoekD_ust4TouToplZxFK2IeqI8EAvDlCYhd3-zM5y1882VR0/w640-h340/west1.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><br /><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIxcNbaNABkDGAOKRjnJfNnhqNA2FTy9pl3kuoacp8jTVXTIKIwzr5imKX78eQHySkcD1ncUxC43rAjaMnnL9D6SV5kVT_dFG2MT9gzZlTsQkSm9NGdoGWKIdmng5anmx-7FEFThyQPdoMncAg6ob2tf4qFyx0G2ZC8Im0w6EQVdBubFXXrRVM9hTc4-Q/s624/west2.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="255" data-original-width="624" height="262" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIxcNbaNABkDGAOKRjnJfNnhqNA2FTy9pl3kuoacp8jTVXTIKIwzr5imKX78eQHySkcD1ncUxC43rAjaMnnL9D6SV5kVT_dFG2MT9gzZlTsQkSm9NGdoGWKIdmng5anmx-7FEFThyQPdoMncAg6ob2tf4qFyx0G2ZC8Im0w6EQVdBubFXXrRVM9hTc4-Q/w640-h262/west2.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGUi_iboTNRGHupfyaCJNVxPnyeEv2G0PBwutoA8ZrqeCieOfjQWdFqARvvjZYJ2vaJQipwG2LUbBlJG6SDeHzgFolu7BcNBG2bJhv7USoqFrwZGWClgXr6kiny-9WH5jIceWx1WvnCdb8wbWa8bYavt7LIY41WGQ7AndBUEnjgkwmNdS7-S1aHJk6LpU/s523/west2b.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="523" data-original-width="428" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGUi_iboTNRGHupfyaCJNVxPnyeEv2G0PBwutoA8ZrqeCieOfjQWdFqARvvjZYJ2vaJQipwG2LUbBlJG6SDeHzgFolu7BcNBG2bJhv7USoqFrwZGWClgXr6kiny-9WH5jIceWx1WvnCdb8wbWa8bYavt7LIY41WGQ7AndBUEnjgkwmNdS7-S1aHJk6LpU/w524-h640/west2b.PNG" width="524" /></a></div><br /><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh9KKjm0Mp6PkaQgjWmVkzOCwAxq_lILZP2NMhMaEJrAps03vL4jSdJb0YSAOuaH1XpjGNde0WESDlSDanW2VWUmIvHdkoyYBg4bsnrwvsCQ5p69bKy06OShvkIsnM-GjWagKAvi2mEyGgZPtLRDV2BnZiU9anDlIApcdV9B8DzRRmJU9F2KbT0ViyGw5E/s597/west34.PNG" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="278" data-original-width="597" height="186" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh9KKjm0Mp6PkaQgjWmVkzOCwAxq_lILZP2NMhMaEJrAps03vL4jSdJb0YSAOuaH1XpjGNde0WESDlSDanW2VWUmIvHdkoyYBg4bsnrwvsCQ5p69bKy06OShvkIsnM-GjWagKAvi2mEyGgZPtLRDV2BnZiU9anDlIApcdV9B8DzRRmJU9F2KbT0ViyGw5E/w400-h186/west34.PNG" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"> </td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"> </td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"> </td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"> </td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"> </td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"> </td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"> </td></tr></tbody></table><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">A council, or the City in this case, are allowed 56 days for an on street parking PCN in which to serve their Notice of Rejection otherwise they are deemed to have accepted and must serve a Notice of Acceptance and cancel the PCN.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Service of a Notice of Rejection at this stage opens the door to the independent tribunal which Mr Mustard attends nearly every week and where he was expecting to win on argument #4 as he has done five times already.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard keeps an eye on enforcement authority websites so he can glean if an Acceptance or Rejection has likely been issued.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Something unusual happened on 20 December which was day 41 of 56, the City of Westminster wrote to Mr Mustard's client:</span></div><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrzpv6SU-F4Bi-16KHRcLGjQPFyM09K7eYjww4TPQIQAu77UQyiwy6nwQoL7YqZYBtTJgMILQiyjQDDR_tfPveyu6gaeRjJSTA-YqAPc4VlqYxxXZJ4_sAAQYHizfHNy3kJ5-3w1SJIG7WXVTp6AEmimn3HYyvbczoRwOYJShRPJoyqFhpeAVL9xtgQuE/s659/cow20201223.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="207" data-original-width="659" height="202" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjrzpv6SU-F4Bi-16KHRcLGjQPFyM09K7eYjww4TPQIQAu77UQyiwy6nwQoL7YqZYBtTJgMILQiyjQDDR_tfPveyu6gaeRjJSTA-YqAPc4VlqYxxXZJ4_sAAQYHizfHNy3kJ5-3w1SJIG7WXVTp6AEmimn3HYyvbczoRwOYJShRPJoyqFhpeAVL9xtgQuE/w640-h202/cow20201223.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard looked at the ticking clock and thought there was the possibility that a Notice of Rejection would not be served (sending isn't enough, it has to arrive) by the 56th day being 4 January 2024.</span></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">On 4 January Mr Mustard emailed the City of Westminster as follows:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /> </span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiImRhXdd9LAKQfVu8n6qSWhyqu80jXmT6D_daeC7F2jJvZ1fb4LUMNj8plAYvUhd77U2qA4FX5hMaUEaY2c6lG6n8y2ezRxb1L5B-O1Vz9ZOusnEmvbN-Dvs8ZD8NJ6v6eO-LdKvp8kdXbp7k05r4aVpu4sMW7fMHE1YNvaUzNC9aP8qke0KowZ578XGw/s549/4jan24cow.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="191" data-original-width="549" height="222" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiImRhXdd9LAKQfVu8n6qSWhyqu80jXmT6D_daeC7F2jJvZ1fb4LUMNj8plAYvUhd77U2qA4FX5hMaUEaY2c6lG6n8y2ezRxb1L5B-O1Vz9ZOusnEmvbN-Dvs8ZD8NJ6v6eO-LdKvp8kdXbp7k05r4aVpu4sMW7fMHE1YNvaUzNC9aP8qke0KowZ578XGw/w640-h222/4jan24cow.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Not long after sending that email Mr Mustard's client, who is also very efficient, sent him a copy of the Charge Certificate which had been issued on 2 January 2024 and was a procedural impropriety as a response to representations was outstanding so the file must be placed on hold.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Having raised his query at a senior level the job of responding was given to 'Customer relations' (this isn't going to end well). The sort of response which makes Mr Mustard happy is short, simple and apologetic, something like this:</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><i><span style="color: #2b00fe;">'Dear Mr Mustard. Thank you for your email. You are quite correct. We have cancelled the Charge Certificate and the PCn and apologise for the inconvenience. Yours etc'.</span></i></span></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is what he got instead, just the 'good' bits:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-yS1IyyWYFTGUfXTI5bPHS_qKkFzUgU-UPX1uMGJ2Otwa857E2YQ0tZ7lHFmeuom9T35Gbxf8Y7RO_abIlc2ATbpy9rmSrlr2uDwc2bP2J3-g8WmC85MUJ6P9s3KWCrguz4i8C0CKa-towlVMo8R1DCsvSRUP35uSrTnVbEew-ejAZm3Y7GzsD9DQ6BY/s1430/apol1.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="104" data-original-width="1430" height="46" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-yS1IyyWYFTGUfXTI5bPHS_qKkFzUgU-UPX1uMGJ2Otwa857E2YQ0tZ7lHFmeuom9T35Gbxf8Y7RO_abIlc2ATbpy9rmSrlr2uDwc2bP2J3-g8WmC85MUJ6P9s3KWCrguz4i8C0CKa-towlVMo8R1DCsvSRUP35uSrTnVbEew-ejAZm3Y7GzsD9DQ6BY/w640-h46/apol1.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br />Oh yes it does. If there is a procedural impropriety an adjudicator is bound to allow an Appeal by a motorist.<p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjaCVt0YGztSHJB0Meg-weYDsQZZIRLxBxvKM9PB762RBwN_zhYP2PIuCVCPlDbRgRz1mcZaSJq3rBvhT-a1-jPtKiyp6q-R8fbmbAdVYikdhQfQMW-oSqtZEqTCpbQy9mFjvhd9S9_zeMEFcDE2Wm3stx046ASrc-TjSa_oPcCHgE2Wt_ucrEWRD8YYKo/s1434/apol2.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="286" data-original-width="1434" height="128" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjaCVt0YGztSHJB0Meg-weYDsQZZIRLxBxvKM9PB762RBwN_zhYP2PIuCVCPlDbRgRz1mcZaSJq3rBvhT-a1-jPtKiyp6q-R8fbmbAdVYikdhQfQMW-oSqtZEqTCpbQy9mFjvhd9S9_zeMEFcDE2Wm3stx046ASrc-TjSa_oPcCHgE2Wt_ucrEWRD8YYKo/w640-h128/apol2.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The 'correspondence' that the City of Westminster received was all in the one document with an image of the authority letter inserted into the text of the document which was headed 'Formal representations'.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Apparently in the City of Westminster a fundamental challenge to the legal wording and thus the right to issue a PCN isn't a representation. Nor, it seems, is a challenge that the Contravention did not occur despite that being one of the statutory grounds specified in the legislation. What we can gather from this is that the City of Westminster decided to act as if Mr Mustard had not written a word which put his client into a position where having been deemed to not have made a formal representation within 28 days of receiving the Notice to Owner they became liable for the PCN by default and then saw the penalty illegally increased by 50%.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Clearly, the City of Westminster had forgotten the contents of their own Notice to Owner, viz;</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh2CWMjW66YuuIhR7JkDOrXwIXe7VsWz8SfuhRtvnsMXqsHQvIgNEMh-RX8jbxjSGKIwBJe-D3BjOdsw3VM-4Ij_0UIxIdpA1nnPEpT6Rv8fAOXaSzGyLY_mtAtTiCuJ7EFI3cnW8NSv1UfYif7QU3Ad7HuB0KfpaaEp_90RTdizDB8aI0MDgNBhhzk6TE/s451/cownto.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="107" data-original-width="451" height="152" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh2CWMjW66YuuIhR7JkDOrXwIXe7VsWz8SfuhRtvnsMXqsHQvIgNEMh-RX8jbxjSGKIwBJe-D3BjOdsw3VM-4Ij_0UIxIdpA1nnPEpT6Rv8fAOXaSzGyLY_mtAtTiCuJ7EFI3cnW8NSv1UfYif7QU3Ad7HuB0KfpaaEp_90RTdizDB8aI0MDgNBhhzk6TE/w640-h152/cownto.PNG" width="640" /> </a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The non apology continued:</span> <br /></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgKaqLunTKx9FnNn0jS6GvUAvSe64O3lcRLCjTpQJGVpsHBB95fnJXAhJk8l6WnuURb9mxhubHDlLbCAPWGi4c3xDidd5wv9mufXLCxNGWY0Ju2zQNSrWqriZuk5DDP8UzHX-debi7_BPdzU5_WF5h8SbOU9RJXwB5_4oW815QQRtQIVA9btNnKNFaFbY/s1428/apol3.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="320" data-original-width="1428" height="144" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgKaqLunTKx9FnNn0jS6GvUAvSe64O3lcRLCjTpQJGVpsHBB95fnJXAhJk8l6WnuURb9mxhubHDlLbCAPWGi4c3xDidd5wv9mufXLCxNGWY0Ju2zQNSrWqriZuk5DDP8UzHX-debi7_BPdzU5_WF5h8SbOU9RJXwB5_4oW815QQRtQIVA9btNnKNFaFbY/w640-h144/apol3.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The City of Westminster are in for a shock. Mr Mustard doesn't fight many PCNs against this authority but one of his expert friends does. There are already 6 adjudication decisions made by 3 different adjudicators covering 4 enforcement authorities where this wording has been found to be wrong. </span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjF-FzuMzodSSkd1h-HzmSiICS4jdkQ_7sNb8bZ63WQY_CfgrAP6JHYMs-ztV-WTK_c86Rqw2wsjoCBydZCy8s2vlOm44J9lT8ZrhkK-qp45LZEKcKfA03aW-Oqy_35qMMi-vz850PVXVW850D0UXTRQ82t4_tkwZOIJrCiHETdVN_KS7ov1YGR5OhdRoA/s693/full%20amount.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="147" data-original-width="693" height="136" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjF-FzuMzodSSkd1h-HzmSiICS4jdkQ_7sNb8bZ63WQY_CfgrAP6JHYMs-ztV-WTK_c86Rqw2wsjoCBydZCy8s2vlOm44J9lT8ZrhkK-qp45LZEKcKfA03aW-Oqy_35qMMi-vz850PVXVW850D0UXTRQ82t4_tkwZOIJrCiHETdVN_KS7ov1YGR5OhdRoA/w640-h136/full%20amount.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is part of a tribunal decision which went against the London Borough of Hounslow and which you can quote to any other enforcement authority issuing parking PCNs on street (not through the post, they have different rules) when you ask them to cancel your PCN.</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi9Cy9ThOXChyphenhyphenjHJjrWmRFAZwWgDRDp3Mk3yAhKj1Nimc2NqNgrZn884GH-zPL5tI5H7zjSMqLBmcjuhMB5M8rGf5DvramfnK8krVQOWFJql2LptsHwE4Vkh_2C0GGNEqnsqw_zgNj4xSqjLx0Xf23A9gMDptFUFwBzDTX_f7AsQt3cnpmQOX2mPYSO0UA/s604/hounslow28days.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="403" data-original-width="604" height="428" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi9Cy9ThOXChyphenhyphenjHJjrWmRFAZwWgDRDp3Mk3yAhKj1Nimc2NqNgrZn884GH-zPL5tI5H7zjSMqLBmcjuhMB5M8rGf5DvramfnK8krVQOWFJql2LptsHwE4Vkh_2C0GGNEqnsqw_zgNj4xSqjLx0Xf23A9gMDptFUFwBzDTX_f7AsQt3cnpmQOX2mPYSO0UA/w640-h428/hounslow28days.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">When an enforcement authority writes to you telling you that they are right and you are wrong, stop and think what is in it for the enforcement authority, £130 possibly. Look at what happened in the Post Office, innocent people were told they were the only one. The difference here is that Mr Mustard and the band of PCN experts to which he belongs know the difference between right and wrong. Success with a particular argument cannot be guaranteed as the decision above isn't a precedent, it is under the law as it stands legally persuasive and likely to be followed because the adjudicator named above has been deciding the fate of PCNs for more than the 13 years Mr Mustard has been appearing in front of him and the second adjudicator likewise. They are highly experienced qualified lawyers and came to their decisions after careful consideration of all the arguments. It matters not a jot to an adjudicator if they Allow or Refuse an Appeal as there is no financial incentive for them to decide either way, they apply the law without fear or favour.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard's final word for the parking department. Mr Mustard isn't a 'customer' so has no need of 'customer relations'. The City of Westminster have zero respect until they learn to say sorry when they have right royally lashed up.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Pity the motorist acting for themselves as knowledge is power and Mr Mustard knows what should be what. The more you all know, the better.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.<br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span><br /></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-82503338822936528362024-01-08T10:02:00.001+00:002024-01-08T10:02:30.353+00:00When 'traffic wardens' meet<p><span style="font-family: verdana;">A funny story from the tribunal in Saturday's decisions. Here it is in full.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj2XOVk9FjRHWFcI55WBXgCh0WVixiYnrP13kfOInnDyUZMBj3_-LZ5UyIt75KCHuQMRXt4MPoml_hPFLkvBvUd-ov75_xfC0I03vC6XTToGXMHtvMlpaw2cZqkwz4A5yzOI5zqbwB1dGgvAzC7UBB7_qcld4xxPbmV5e5NRcjCUZMLiL87pRFiCvRuXiY/s795/decision.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="657" data-original-width="795" height="528" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj2XOVk9FjRHWFcI55WBXgCh0WVixiYnrP13kfOInnDyUZMBj3_-LZ5UyIt75KCHuQMRXt4MPoml_hPFLkvBvUd-ov75_xfC0I03vC6XTToGXMHtvMlpaw2cZqkwz4A5yzOI5zqbwB1dGgvAzC7UBB7_qcld4xxPbmV5e5NRcjCUZMLiL87pRFiCvRuXiY/w640-h528/decision.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">What is clear is that the Hounslow Council traffic warden who issued the PCN did so in a great hurry, as per usual, even though the motorist was in the frame from the very beginning.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard's advice is to calmly drive off in such a case as the notes made will often be deficient or the warden will make a false note as in this case. Mr Mustard has known the notes of the traffic warden to be destroyed by dashcam or doorbell footage.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">If a traffic warden cheats you, please make a complaint to the council as otherwise they will continue. <br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.</span></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-62099819928442388422023-12-11T21:39:00.003+00:002023-12-11T21:40:40.993+00:00A sunny dis-position<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEga-oj392WA05fCGsAWrGOTW8wreRItq9dD79gcJpLuAJ4-97FOO5veKXiRUK7CoRTyaaBalAVU-kHeIsqZemRfxDU2kil9Js1lr7p2EnzGLo8p8xLBaC_mVvh4ZTY7YM_0g5azEBDn5xX0fJjjDVpyy-yA0YfMl-TwLYc8I_iIR7zfQFudWkTRqmD6ov4/s454/signs%20in%20sunny%20gardens%20road.png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="454" data-original-width="417" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEga-oj392WA05fCGsAWrGOTW8wreRItq9dD79gcJpLuAJ4-97FOO5veKXiRUK7CoRTyaaBalAVU-kHeIsqZemRfxDU2kil9Js1lr7p2EnzGLo8p8xLBaC_mVvh4ZTY7YM_0g5azEBDn5xX0fJjjDVpyy-yA0YfMl-TwLYc8I_iIR7zfQFudWkTRqmD6ov4/w588-h640/signs%20in%20sunny%20gardens%20road.png" width="588" /></a></div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">So here we have an image of Sunny Gardens Road in Hendon Central. Signs here just can't sit still. The cctv sign has been twisted to the right since 2017 and the upper single yellow sign to the left since 2019. Traffic wardens are meant to report defective signs and have the sign team fix them rather than issue a PCN. No-one has done their job for 4 years.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">A friend of Mr Mustard's got a PCN to the right of the sign. It wasn't an event day. Mr Mustard made the informal challenge (the one made in response to a PCN placed on the windscreen). Here it is.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjnASACe4on4Wof9xKtFsmr2mHONAQzdxRwke4Y1Ka7J4sLa2uz8kQs_48sWMjIg31cx9h0R8zkCjviaBvA4QqzUjGi-8Z36HQ9ohp1Lp7kwrddvCkO8zMFgxA9z_Va0JoRqYmOS88ZY3SzFpLUYjLgEZKo0ME_PcfDIlLu2PaKFXG0kOaIElTgsLjZ0oo/s635/inf%20chall.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="197" data-original-width="635" height="198" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjnASACe4on4Wof9xKtFsmr2mHONAQzdxRwke4Y1Ka7J4sLa2uz8kQs_48sWMjIg31cx9h0R8zkCjviaBvA4QqzUjGi-8Z36HQ9ohp1Lp7kwrddvCkO8zMFgxA9z_Va0JoRqYmOS88ZY3SzFpLUYjLgEZKo0ME_PcfDIlLu2PaKFXG0kOaIElTgsLjZ0oo/w640-h198/inf%20chall.PNG" width="640" /></a></div>To his astonishment it turned out, allegedly, that Mr Mustard was wrong, but the PCN was still going to be cancelled.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimCr7PxJDduteCkMiyvomekRiyL-PQ2X55D8xb46lIpHuCBhZBE4mpTvrDDMtMiAGcCYmqUBp7QvS2w64DOoi5jv1TD26JX_7bmAd77f6aWiRptdIbE4K9ohF4BGU0diStayJaiyETDXz2E2Kk1br6c9-wSPDFIRY3ocUNF1WZrZeFvUHm4FCqUZ_00gA/s1418/noa%20nonsense.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="629" data-original-width="1418" height="284" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEimCr7PxJDduteCkMiyvomekRiyL-PQ2X55D8xb46lIpHuCBhZBE4mpTvrDDMtMiAGcCYmqUBp7QvS2w64DOoi5jv1TD26JX_7bmAd77f6aWiRptdIbE4K9ohF4BGU0diStayJaiyETDXz2E2Kk1br6c9-wSPDFIRY3ocUNF1WZrZeFvUHm4FCqUZ_00gA/w640-h284/noa%20nonsense.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Readers will note that the alleged mistake made by the Civil Enforcement Officer is not specified. That, Mr Mustard surmises, is because he didn't make two errors, the one which Mr Mustard identified plus another one.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">This is the first time in 14 years of fighting PCNs that Mr Mustard has received such an odd letter, so directly telling him how wrong he is when everyone in the world can see he is logically & technically correct.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">A council simply should not enforce a PCN when their signs are not up to snuff.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">If you walk past the southern end of Sunny Gardens Rd do let Mr Mustard know if the sign has been straightened up, by a note in the comments box. </span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">If you get a PCN at the same spot, Mr Mustard will challenge it for you. He takes no notice of the bluff about the cancellation not setting a precedent (well it was supposedly for the unknown error so Mr Mustard can't use it as a ground) as PCNs get cancelled by adjudicators for inadequate signage every day of the week (except Sundays when they don't sit).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.</span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-45440830679032664852023-12-11T08:51:00.001+00:002023-12-11T08:51:07.570+00:00Desperate for cash - Barnet Council<p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The owner of the vehicle (a small amount of which is overhanging the yellow box junction) was somewhat surprised to receive a PCN in the post for the alleged contravention of 'Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited'.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">A heinous crime obviously (not).</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgodS_6DqATkaQWe5DWCp5tnn9XilQ6eJVGVHTbIubz8cAzqe0I90WY1YBdI2EmMiIdfvROh3mwM9lU3_OYm1Dznv4TaTYLdgwf8MmzD1gsSbNOwplJU9vjqUFVzyuOh-u4fzLdOEjrDZ7hcVeDhZGaO5K96NrLxaBNoF5QBkLMYLyMwsGWX1ZuBguXGys/s904/ybj%20d1.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="601" data-original-width="904" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgodS_6DqATkaQWe5DWCp5tnn9XilQ6eJVGVHTbIubz8cAzqe0I90WY1YBdI2EmMiIdfvROh3mwM9lU3_OYm1Dznv4TaTYLdgwf8MmzD1gsSbNOwplJU9vjqUFVzyuOh-u4fzLdOEjrDZ7hcVeDhZGaO5K96NrLxaBNoF5QBkLMYLyMwsGWX1ZuBguXGys/w640-h426/ybj%20d1.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">What could he have done or what should you do if you encounter this situation?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">1<span> </span>Move forward as the gap to the car in front is huge.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">2<span> </span>Go up the inside lane</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">3<span> </span>Turn right (as is an exemption).</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has made representations that any contravention is 'de minimis non curat lex' i.e. a Court (or tribunal) does not concern itself with trifles.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Looked at from above this is a box which is far longer than it needs to be and the mouth of the junction does not need to be that wide as there is a weight limit on the side road so does not need to accommodate huge trucks which means that a narrower entry would slow traffic down and make crossing for pedestrians (Sainsburys are on the corner) much safer.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMNspaLHM7byBUi_-Fa7dORNFProztcNefeWGLaFCRipcnZ9gD4Er254LbiFRk73MH91VnnKwZK-xPBZ5SywiEXrq-ItPDrWxoblLQR1p0EB_ZPy9Q9HxV6YLbghhjNeWHK3cdI9ovtB3w4ytozH5hRUrZ6Y0HRRJGplLA2YyxxIowfcQ0Kzem5BzK_90/s600/ybj2.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="536" data-original-width="600" height="572" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMNspaLHM7byBUi_-Fa7dORNFProztcNefeWGLaFCRipcnZ9gD4Er254LbiFRk73MH91VnnKwZK-xPBZ5SywiEXrq-ItPDrWxoblLQR1p0EB_ZPy9Q9HxV6YLbghhjNeWHK3cdI9ovtB3w4ytozH5hRUrZ6Y0HRRJGplLA2YyxxIowfcQ0Kzem5BzK_90/w640-h572/ybj2.png" width="640" /></a></div><br />The change of political control on 5 May 2022 has not softened the ruthless, relentless and venal issuing of Penalty Charge Notices.<p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.</span></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-17292661891210541282023-12-07T11:33:00.003+00:002023-12-07T11:33:22.237+00:00Havering - the dangerous council<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard was asked to help a motorist who, when driving along perfectly legally was presented with a problem requiring instant action. The problem was three cars heading straight towards them and the only sensible option was to enter the bus lane to avoid a head on smash, probable serious injury and possibly death. Havering Council thought that deserved a PCN.</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgkrkLj_Cza0XOYFRm7Vm_mS-bfLgL5yoUKNuGeueshUMiIKsYBd33PRszgONnwPS6qJY7ttPRopaqESgVtuBMZlcw-eihRTaIZ2EAujzx1CQdPppVAW5m648C2gtHA4_6ktaRIT0LoUjTxG4qgOD1vy5TdnTy4ncrBA603Ag3biWQme8Y-wyfS_5nE00/s1769/oncoming%20traffic.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="929" data-original-width="1769" height="336" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhgkrkLj_Cza0XOYFRm7Vm_mS-bfLgL5yoUKNuGeueshUMiIKsYBd33PRszgONnwPS6qJY7ttPRopaqESgVtuBMZlcw-eihRTaIZ2EAujzx1CQdPppVAW5m648C2gtHA4_6ktaRIT0LoUjTxG4qgOD1vy5TdnTy4ncrBA603Ag3biWQme8Y-wyfS_5nE00/w640-h336/oncoming%20traffic.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The only other realistic alternative was to stop within your lane but Mr Mustard would have done the same as the motorist as if in doubt, no matter how much you are in the right, you get out of the way of dangerous drivers.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Why did someone at Havering Council think this merited a PCN?</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiC4rRNVnkywvWMKL3UHIEKCeDTus4x_Evt_DxKt6-xQFxDe8l5qeYSmjW4WhE_jEDCkx5XcFCJIAtCbRepg9NQM2Z6IzrjJc24A-UOCc6LAge-gCKeoT3CfSopZ4IN0Nib505xHAYFHtm2JExqOEO-7_Sa6LzzTeXBsOEy81IVTlZM02pCdGnFPblmQRs/s592/hpcn.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="141" data-original-width="592" height="152" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiC4rRNVnkywvWMKL3UHIEKCeDTus4x_Evt_DxKt6-xQFxDe8l5qeYSmjW4WhE_jEDCkx5XcFCJIAtCbRepg9NQM2Z6IzrjJc24A-UOCc6LAge-gCKeoT3CfSopZ4IN0Nib505xHAYFHtm2JExqOEO-7_Sa6LzzTeXBsOEy81IVTlZM02pCdGnFPblmQRs/w640-h152/hpcn.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The process is that for a bus lane PCN you can make an informal challenge (although the right is not enshrined in law it is usually offered by councils in London). If that is rejected an Enforcement Notice is issued against which you make formal representations (they can be the same as the informal challenge). Then you can go to Appeal in front of an independent adjudicator at London Tribunals if rejected.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Adjudicators are truly independent and do not have a financial interest in the outcome, which helps. Councils on the other hand know that if they reject challenges only 1% of PCNs end up at the tribunal. (Close to 100% of Mr Mustard's rejections end up at the tribunal! and 90% of those end in cancellation).</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Outside London it is different, there is only one representation stage to the council.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The motorist had already sent in their own informal challenge and seen it rejected as follows:</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8KIAbtk4UXYpi4LpIoqBfsdCCS5vrlG3fdVePGmMiv1QSDx6LYFmyWEQLUCgbAmjGSvgh4PEZ25XCdUiWlj_1Qn1qOb98zmHBvd50sH3wiSrrSUwhfCjYCHFyVIbnp1g72GNklgTeJahulY2WqNNoTpUZ2HFz4uFmasYLSItqedzghvOVCLcX_d1FuW8/s543/hv%20inf%20rej.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="401" data-original-width="543" height="472" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj8KIAbtk4UXYpi4LpIoqBfsdCCS5vrlG3fdVePGmMiv1QSDx6LYFmyWEQLUCgbAmjGSvgh4PEZ25XCdUiWlj_1Qn1qOb98zmHBvd50sH3wiSrrSUwhfCjYCHFyVIbnp1g72GNklgTeJahulY2WqNNoTpUZ2HFz4uFmasYLSItqedzghvOVCLcX_d1FuW8/w640-h472/hv%20inf%20rej.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is the first part of the form</span><span style="font-family: verdana;">al representations which Mr Mustard wrote. <br /></span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiR-j83XWL7zV0Tl9iZMcuqAVCNl28waIDPMBybnIpHxm1iAIAxkrgQvkuY2SyIW_r4biNk0EHvPC2gMvlucl6czOLCVWpNmIyBRZu-uzV_-ipVkZ-8HHAr6sbe_7fsSwfEe41FFQXqog8hLhIfXZN8o_wLKUtJbGj62HPvVlJQeGPopuD3uPdijStMqvQ/s1271/kp%20formal%20reps.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="355" data-original-width="1271" height="178" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiR-j83XWL7zV0Tl9iZMcuqAVCNl28waIDPMBybnIpHxm1iAIAxkrgQvkuY2SyIW_r4biNk0EHvPC2gMvlucl6czOLCVWpNmIyBRZu-uzV_-ipVkZ-8HHAr6sbe_7fsSwfEe41FFQXqog8hLhIfXZN8o_wLKUtJbGj62HPvVlJQeGPopuD3uPdijStMqvQ/w640-h178/kp%20formal%20reps.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /> It did not find favour with Havering.<p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPY7JpLfZYfLv98cedtuLTeBFXfgb2CVD0s-J4Ybsyu6SoBGMTfF6f-p9y6-pIIyooU_kdFzsv8hIeNt2aoA2NXh78w2pcwtfAiH9J6Kfd9ZQVIBrzye9c0zeWoQILGVlM6PmbXvI3aZUSE09eCXP-MU_E0liil71sGeNiylvtS6Ee6ge0uz0UNelTBz0/s527/kp%20nor1.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="310" data-original-width="527" height="376" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjPY7JpLfZYfLv98cedtuLTeBFXfgb2CVD0s-J4Ybsyu6SoBGMTfF6f-p9y6-pIIyooU_kdFzsv8hIeNt2aoA2NXh78w2pcwtfAiH9J6Kfd9ZQVIBrzye9c0zeWoQILGVlM6PmbXvI3aZUSE09eCXP-MU_E0liil71sGeNiylvtS6Ee6ge0uz0UNelTBz0/w640-h376/kp%20nor1.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">You will note the complete absence of the full consideration which Havering claim to have made. Havering expect you to play chicken with oncoming traffic as they wrote when rejecting the informal challenge. The Notice of Rejection continued:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLyJIOtojSU90wq7-lxIhsqgUeojKcGEh2eqmvd2rR5eybgTe8-N3cCVG6FgHNlkAfTVM_NMNNijqPqAwfVTDpoyN9TZ7y16TGz3F-0odIZ2_xtpwXqssbqqWHTj2EkXi2YYjzW8up-S5cI2oBtSnfzPrYxJZa7ghh8AFqBRGI84H9X1pmm7VYYW5h-eY/s548/kp%20nor2.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="187" data-original-width="548" height="218" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLyJIOtojSU90wq7-lxIhsqgUeojKcGEh2eqmvd2rR5eybgTe8-N3cCVG6FgHNlkAfTVM_NMNNijqPqAwfVTDpoyN9TZ7y16TGz3F-0odIZ2_xtpwXqssbqqWHTj2EkXi2YYjzW8up-S5cI2oBtSnfzPrYxJZa7ghh8AFqBRGI84H9X1pmm7VYYW5h-eY/w640-h218/kp%20nor2.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The Notice of Rejection was a nonsense. The Enforcement Notice had already been received and responded to. Given that recourse to the tribunal was offered the process as far as the council was concerned was over. Mr Mustard could have pointed out their error but their final line suggested this might well be a waste of time so instead an Appeal was duly started at London Tribunals which meant that Havering had to pay a fee of £25.55</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The Appeal was based upon the procedural errors of the council. Three weeks passed and then Havering decided to not contest the Appeal and to cancel the PCN. Not that confident in their case then?<br /></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">If you think you are correct stand up for your rights or ask Mr Mustard to do so on your behalf.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.</span><br /></p><p><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-12288607638871239552023-11-30T17:33:00.003+00:002023-11-30T17:33:50.415+00:00PCNs generate a small fortune & clearly don't work<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Next Thursday there is a meeting of a select number of local councillors, from every borough, at London Councils, at which the proposal to increase the value of a Penalty Charge Notice was going to be considered. It now appears that the necessary survey analysis has not been completed so we have to wait. it is fortunate as Mr Mustard planned to attend and he had a diary clash with, ironically, a full slate of tribunal PCN Appeals.<br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiUk4wGRRWAxrz8EAwOtV1StjRhaNTgVrSrSXvAlW1Xjuk6vYiPW28jKSzJBGW2PHaFUFuOe2-Qc-8vNEGC0MoyZopl7VsiIqXeLC6h5XhiL5iRKKySBjLVJ8qUz9TnNcAGY-u6iDkHMLnuUKjKPaSTkjzfdcEQ67TAUbZuqXRnjDiWycMdV6-knzAzyZk/s733/coonsultation%20responses.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="293" data-original-width="733" height="256" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiUk4wGRRWAxrz8EAwOtV1StjRhaNTgVrSrSXvAlW1Xjuk6vYiPW28jKSzJBGW2PHaFUFuOe2-Qc-8vNEGC0MoyZopl7VsiIqXeLC6h5XhiL5iRKKySBjLVJ8qUz9TnNcAGY-u6iDkHMLnuUKjKPaSTkjzfdcEQ67TAUbZuqXRnjDiWycMdV6-knzAzyZk/w640-h256/coonsultation%20responses.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has started to look at how much money councils are raking in from parking and moving traffic PCNs. It is vast and self evidently not the solution, except to budget shortfalls.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The story so far and note that each borough records their income slightly differently:</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0EOylCu_kR1xN6MSNQBpMZd4ixsRMYAmq1V1dRoQnI6eNWKURxfZoiLkR-Vr79LWSvhOihR1KAZKtNgdJejJkV7TZft9_jjG2P37xdTWuqieLfLg4kHTzTjMMVMYnErlfeA-WYTzMi7KUrjdltvYu30URJRqjBYZZ-_hkPdOU505wB53BwsV2p-DOgq0/s1022/stats%20to%2030%20Nov%2023.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="296" data-original-width="1022" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0EOylCu_kR1xN6MSNQBpMZd4ixsRMYAmq1V1dRoQnI6eNWKURxfZoiLkR-Vr79LWSvhOihR1KAZKtNgdJejJkV7TZft9_jjG2P37xdTWuqieLfLg4kHTzTjMMVMYnErlfeA-WYTzMi7KUrjdltvYu30URJRqjBYZZ-_hkPdOU505wB53BwsV2p-DOgq0/s16000/stats%20to%2030%20Nov%2023.PNG" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Loadsamoney.<br /></span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-39597004797814437932023-11-29T23:29:00.003+00:002023-11-29T23:31:09.508+00:00Harrow Council - band of thieves<div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Harrow Council are hedging their bets. They are going to apply to London Councils to change from band B (outer London rates) to band A (inner London rates) but if London Councils own attempt to increase the value of all PCNs is successful they won't do it (for now anyway). Their website had a explanation from which Mr Mustard has extracted the most relevant parts.</span></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNJ_A7S8Zwrqqlz39q6CemQ5b89g-fRFEu2sxA7Aglcg6X_96NO9WSDFsG9rKD9NhJC2Ze8FYufVokXua0kXpNweZuq-UUq5JCY3V344tzokpGshWMKSVicrflqgwVqjBUzmdkQNqEaDCWgNQCtOS3iEQLxufPQW09CmeG4x7vLITqaEK6fLU71VATnm4/s3509/0002.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3509" data-original-width="2481" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgNJ_A7S8Zwrqqlz39q6CemQ5b89g-fRFEu2sxA7Aglcg6X_96NO9WSDFsG9rKD9NhJC2Ze8FYufVokXua0kXpNweZuq-UUq5JCY3V344tzokpGshWMKSVicrflqgwVqjBUzmdkQNqEaDCWgNQCtOS3iEQLxufPQW09CmeG4x7vLITqaEK6fLU71VATnm4/w452-h640/0002.jpg" width="452" /></a></p><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2D_MWl5SLudeIEl7hVJy1tuYRhYIirzVIzMRn0VllQsdWsyGU1ZZ9qnE-ufnLdeZUcmgdBN9T1viofKkVnAiUWtwHlFYQjj4WSWpMOqMVrIfjyBef6FriEPY5XzOpuF2IQeWV5_udDbhXNFIY2iYOZyp_znTPB7-tL3p0yCpFbfMyAcvI0E-isBVBfWM/s3509/0003.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3509" data-original-width="2481" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg2D_MWl5SLudeIEl7hVJy1tuYRhYIirzVIzMRn0VllQsdWsyGU1ZZ9qnE-ufnLdeZUcmgdBN9T1viofKkVnAiUWtwHlFYQjj4WSWpMOqMVrIfjyBef6FriEPY5XzOpuF2IQeWV5_udDbhXNFIY2iYOZyp_znTPB7-tL3p0yCpFbfMyAcvI0E-isBVBfWM/w452-h640/0003.jpg" width="452" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhK4DKUxp_xhiqenCoR1-oTnV-D7G4RhSoTUjlDHm0hRxLQ76yKgixhzAoYZsSi50gpgII2f1AxMpiYB7KYEphyphenhyphenpiY1DAjOJW8Jf3GSfbLuwOriHcNreCvu_S4OZygHIRAoQRpv_MiEyxwDnKQQJYXjcqn2Zr5IW7_jcYvK5cpyPw5IHRjRPLVUvWmmqgc/s3509/0004.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3509" data-original-width="2481" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhK4DKUxp_xhiqenCoR1-oTnV-D7G4RhSoTUjlDHm0hRxLQ76yKgixhzAoYZsSi50gpgII2f1AxMpiYB7KYEphyphenhyphenpiY1DAjOJW8Jf3GSfbLuwOriHcNreCvu_S4OZygHIRAoQRpv_MiEyxwDnKQQJYXjcqn2Zr5IW7_jcYvK5cpyPw5IHRjRPLVUvWmmqgc/w452-h640/0004.jpg" width="452" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAtb5DfZRYT4F0n970qnmqOQKnxJJVFhrlbWvGBcYGbcc-jPYnc1_2QayuSUL3swmMcGvJ237WEdY6X2H5Kv8vcd2Ab2Oceaow67gOAcbNqc5KaRWgwv9VOkGadVec0VufkXaoFpopT9oJr-USbWZdjdrRsfRrayDs21nIMPLntE3iyMdhvDl6TVJg6o4/s3509/0006.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3509" data-original-width="2481" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgAtb5DfZRYT4F0n970qnmqOQKnxJJVFhrlbWvGBcYGbcc-jPYnc1_2QayuSUL3swmMcGvJ237WEdY6X2H5Kv8vcd2Ab2Oceaow67gOAcbNqc5KaRWgwv9VOkGadVec0VufkXaoFpopT9oJr-USbWZdjdrRsfRrayDs21nIMPLntE3iyMdhvDl6TVJg6o4/w452-h640/0006.jpg" width="452" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8LxgAf9cLku_02P3S6RhKLG9FBBTAoe2LsQ5koAz0JwOXXnEtXqUwFwNUy6qCn4tO6lTFEtb-2vuCxwu4vsonRToeCqffYd7PIYHg8FZCr2r-EfsND8DUMoKQbQMGheKfdP0FSGbtIgtqWzdmSpYnDfocMpFf6hEx49Qgd8IT5UCEGvIeSLM3_i81JGQ/s3509/0007.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3509" data-original-width="2481" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi8LxgAf9cLku_02P3S6RhKLG9FBBTAoe2LsQ5koAz0JwOXXnEtXqUwFwNUy6qCn4tO6lTFEtb-2vuCxwu4vsonRToeCqffYd7PIYHg8FZCr2r-EfsND8DUMoKQbQMGheKfdP0FSGbtIgtqWzdmSpYnDfocMpFf6hEx49Qgd8IT5UCEGvIeSLM3_i81JGQ/w452-h640/0007.jpg" width="452" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEixzpDd6dBpglRjhR3E0EI4T7cPdxmPe8MrvMtyFupH9F9bRcY1Qpgabi9OtwzjEdq31qknAGVIx_eXv9UWrzhLbAmOiOz1l1K7K0uIZukxvr5rEdpwJylO8k65HOT05Sx9twad4atxV4nuTmvFBiRFPdsVKFLfKYHbNuW3VcOnfTjZAZOmnmbBQc9OCkc/s3509/0008.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="3509" data-original-width="2481" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEixzpDd6dBpglRjhR3E0EI4T7cPdxmPe8MrvMtyFupH9F9bRcY1Qpgabi9OtwzjEdq31qknAGVIx_eXv9UWrzhLbAmOiOz1l1K7K0uIZukxvr5rEdpwJylO8k65HOT05Sx9twad4atxV4nuTmvFBiRFPdsVKFLfKYHbNuW3VcOnfTjZAZOmnmbBQc9OCkc/w452-h640/0008.jpg" width="452" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard completed the survey. Questions 1 & 2 were about who he was and the postcode of his home.</span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghQSZOY5rRjt6bWSgfwct1xt_dKtjMizm2_Hazd_ajLNeHFYZGsYFVaQ7ck43k-3_gOBd5n2xCSkkHxiJ6UjKsr_UB-Sj88qpkzfHYSefC0R3fphnSS4wrRNfyKGEK2_dv5vDByuZvyuvej6c58-5GY2mpS4RuHO13QxcTrqblvTdhxPwTuXrqW09-6Qs/s876/q3%20to%204.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="409" data-original-width="876" height="298" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEghQSZOY5rRjt6bWSgfwct1xt_dKtjMizm2_Hazd_ajLNeHFYZGsYFVaQ7ck43k-3_gOBd5n2xCSkkHxiJ6UjKsr_UB-Sj88qpkzfHYSefC0R3fphnSS4wrRNfyKGEK2_dv5vDByuZvyuvej6c58-5GY2mpS4RuHO13QxcTrqblvTdhxPwTuXrqW09-6Qs/w640-h298/q3%20to%204.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEho-UX1XUMw4Xum96miZoUgYAqBnQgaU05NB7m303s4AdT1_HgSFlQ3a_YekneysKJxGJpGPpTwcZRCy5FpooexczJMik9_XAboLf3IS_Ms1ZvcxBfZVQQoCvK49P0lZhmbCcHgzOHVd1aGMgdDGj4IE97ekYsAgGx-bhyphenhyphen2gzZ1f1q-8OX55ZG20Y1bFok/s890/q5%20to%208.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="693" data-original-width="890" height="498" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEho-UX1XUMw4Xum96miZoUgYAqBnQgaU05NB7m303s4AdT1_HgSFlQ3a_YekneysKJxGJpGPpTwcZRCy5FpooexczJMik9_XAboLf3IS_Ms1ZvcxBfZVQQoCvK49P0lZhmbCcHgzOHVd1aGMgdDGj4IE97ekYsAgGx-bhyphenhyphen2gzZ1f1q-8OX55ZG20Y1bFok/w640-h498/q5%20to%208.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Question 9 was how Mr Mustard had heard about the survey and Q10 as to whether or not he had completed the London Councils' survey.</span><p style="text-align: left;"></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard thought that this was the least useful survey he had completed for some time. (Please ignore the spelling errors in his responses, you get the gist).</span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard was also unimpressed with the FAQs which the public were intended to read and digest before answering the survey itself. Mr Mustard decided to ask some more penetrating questions and today he received the responses which are now followed by his commentary. Feel free to add your own at the end.</span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjupghRV2lOYaC3HjED8xSPNJgXOrSXtn27pkPUrSZGgguyHPjV_IJiNo2fgSj_6OymRjM_ArFxw40K-4ml6fKiolFdrw8ulmKCBcLWCF9w3T4ZWfOhcXJDee64fM4bebi2yOrsevlbnPuqAvJjM2Xi7zP4xCpi3lIerS8F76rQEPkERu7gdyEve__GYFY/s1498/foi1.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="190" data-original-width="1498" height="82" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjupghRV2lOYaC3HjED8xSPNJgXOrSXtn27pkPUrSZGgguyHPjV_IJiNo2fgSj_6OymRjM_ArFxw40K-4ml6fKiolFdrw8ulmKCBcLWCF9w3T4ZWfOhcXJDee64fM4bebi2yOrsevlbnPuqAvJjM2Xi7zP4xCpi3lIerS8F76rQEPkERu7gdyEve__GYFY/w640-h82/foi1.PNG" width="640" /> </a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><p style="text-align: left;"></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> The only factor considered before bringing forward the survey (it can't count for anything before it has taken place!) is the bare number of PCNs issued. That is unconvincing as a justification.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></div><div><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-aUuQ6LJGPdXhYFuwy-uPR1z89oVVaqDn2jHqstCRvTjDf5FqU9b07EdKVBHvpaOguJ5DLVopRXT5owS-Kn0YvnYps_IHmmG0aVH3bVtX-sH0GF581fVk7nhQSmyEGxV06RWGowdYvWUnnEgSlPQ7T_yiZmRzGxh4ZiD2kSGoFJF755oKX9of-mP4H_4/s1465/foi2.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="188" data-original-width="1465" height="82" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-aUuQ6LJGPdXhYFuwy-uPR1z89oVVaqDn2jHqstCRvTjDf5FqU9b07EdKVBHvpaOguJ5DLVopRXT5owS-Kn0YvnYps_IHmmG0aVH3bVtX-sH0GF581fVk7nhQSmyEGxV06RWGowdYvWUnnEgSlPQ7T_yiZmRzGxh4ZiD2kSGoFJF755oKX9of-mP4H_4/w640-h82/foi2.PNG" width="640" /> </a></div><p style="text-align: left;"></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The bare numbers of PCNs issued do not show a direct relationship between value and the number of PCNs issued. If there was such a direct relationship the numbers would surely be more or less constant?</span><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p></div><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIzw1ic342vEpXnUUtrI6QrcFmRh3GZBOFTTtpEbk8JQAQjg7G_IE_LhThFQmQ-II7HbbEUsr4RhhvzhQXzZFoZCsptesXEhqElLRSx2wTNr3XT4wSwbcndhgIhqasSNgCl-KooXmO8_DKLJJhLdUON6wYgG-6EQvQbpExjr9GAiMaJ_jp2WU1waRAAT0/s1463/foi3.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="151" data-original-width="1463" height="66" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIzw1ic342vEpXnUUtrI6QrcFmRh3GZBOFTTtpEbk8JQAQjg7G_IE_LhThFQmQ-II7HbbEUsr4RhhvzhQXzZFoZCsptesXEhqElLRSx2wTNr3XT4wSwbcndhgIhqasSNgCl-KooXmO8_DKLJJhLdUON6wYgG-6EQvQbpExjr9GAiMaJ_jp2WU1waRAAT0/w640-h66/foi3.PNG" width="640" /> </a></div></span><p style="text-align: justify;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">There is your proof. If you don't know in advance what a PCN will cost you how can your behaviour be affected by not knowing? (it can be £60 or £80, £110 or £130).</span></div><p style="text-align: left;"></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUF0CJujlcQWj6ApgBfOKaBJQnROiDq6scAZ47_KSRojjoHb_tTaR8kmSNdJNRezj7D1ei53R3EHEE_wHRvZ8MNOQux-flApud5oXJkeF9E9uSJGWroQS8BJb5GBe19o6e-7AnjXCOjdjRnsYPuej2Rxu3RGmpiza43VNLcedH6fy5Kb_jBSA2-y0OC3c/s1464/foi4.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="188" data-original-width="1464" height="82" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUF0CJujlcQWj6ApgBfOKaBJQnROiDq6scAZ47_KSRojjoHb_tTaR8kmSNdJNRezj7D1ei53R3EHEE_wHRvZ8MNOQux-flApud5oXJkeF9E9uSJGWroQS8BJb5GBe19o6e-7AnjXCOjdjRnsYPuej2Rxu3RGmpiza43VNLcedH6fy5Kb_jBSA2-y0OC3c/w640-h82/foi4.PNG" width="640" /> </a></div></span><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has the data as it is published by London Councils each year. </span></div><div><span style="font-family: verdana;">In the year ended 31 March 2013, Waltham Forest issued 70,623 PCNs. </span></div><div><span style="font-family: verdana;">On 1 April 2013 they increased the penalty levels by £20 per PCN. </span></div><div><span style="font-family: verdana;">In the year to 31 March 2014 WF issued 69,082 PCNs a decrease of just 2.2% which Mr Mustard would suggest is not statistically significant (and isn't 3.3% which wasn't material either).</span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglyQX1knrpnG3tedEZtmCqrQabGMny5ADt5hoYGd98QGdIaBbPcT9S-fOP2wWTJRlNl3YID_H3naBIFpfDOE591WoabZXqTunGYaf5f4Xt49t6-JFUK1ejmcjElviLETuqIU0ceikRuCaZ5es0GFE3owJ0xhiplDURbqgrUO3HdUcOOtZN6uzH9bts1z0/s1036/foi5.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="115" data-original-width="1036" height="72" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglyQX1knrpnG3tedEZtmCqrQabGMny5ADt5hoYGd98QGdIaBbPcT9S-fOP2wWTJRlNl3YID_H3naBIFpfDOE591WoabZXqTunGYaf5f4Xt49t6-JFUK1ejmcjElviLETuqIU0ceikRuCaZ5es0GFE3owJ0xhiplDURbqgrUO3HdUcOOtZN6uzH9bts1z0/w640-h72/foi5.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;"></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Oh dear, Harrow failed to notice, or chose not to notice, that in the year ended 31 March 2016, WF issued 88,767 PCNs, an increase on the base year of 2013 of 25.7%. The price increase was a disaster, it didn't work, clearly. Mr Mustard recalls from his secondary school days his maths text book which had a chapter headed 'Lies, damn lies and statistics'. He didn't understand the heading back then but he sure does now.<br /></span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjh1HhVHa0lICnpVcH8Gaitf7h5Q2n0dW-zumoExynZEKfHm15ENzHE-XBkvnpXx4sOWQEeBRrLgccVZl8xvHaw4EwWJ2qoZOHiXXKQab-HN9GjZJkSW6jMVyZAlSqhFBbZ-W2hYwI7OfOYZxyqvnME17q48InPvDqww2fx9rRM98d2Dl9FP9mhENouoWA/s1450/foi6.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="182" data-original-width="1450" height="80" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjh1HhVHa0lICnpVcH8Gaitf7h5Q2n0dW-zumoExynZEKfHm15ENzHE-XBkvnpXx4sOWQEeBRrLgccVZl8xvHaw4EwWJ2qoZOHiXXKQab-HN9GjZJkSW6jMVyZAlSqhFBbZ-W2hYwI7OfOYZxyqvnME17q48InPvDqww2fx9rRM98d2Dl9FP9mhENouoWA/w640-h80/foi6.PNG" width="640" /> </a></div><p style="text-align: left;"></p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Harrow were being wilfully blind in not taking a wider view of the PCN statistics of the last 20 years which are freely available to the public. They have cherry picked a small but convenient fall. They know nothing about the true experience in Waltham Forest.</span><br /><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLCskABFAOdgz-_pDJm_7zmJR_NB5ylwQMGpLIfBpJ2RCBd4extlyCwP4kHB9alCnXpLS_X-Q4O52s9Gl3jGNYFCbtaZkKFwYLawblLqozcMEK9lg0ds8qWk8NhNS4oIGSiPnGLkI2QeWTGCk6dRAfxeYMJ8aN9j5rXX7yeMFpR4vJf1_28qkCWsEgJhk/s1335/foi7.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="119" data-original-width="1335" height="58" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjLCskABFAOdgz-_pDJm_7zmJR_NB5ylwQMGpLIfBpJ2RCBd4extlyCwP4kHB9alCnXpLS_X-Q4O52s9Gl3jGNYFCbtaZkKFwYLawblLqozcMEK9lg0ds8qWk8NhNS4oIGSiPnGLkI2QeWTGCk6dRAfxeYMJ8aN9j5rXX7yeMFpR4vJf1_28qkCWsEgJhk/w640-h58/foi7.PNG" width="640" /> </a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: justify;"><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">No it isn't, it is a question of what you, Harrow Council, know about why the numbers of PCNs issued by WF have gone down slightly in one convenient year and shot up rapidly in four subsequent years.</span></p></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"> </div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZV-dOppv5Nyah3U0gRUbDONfikit25u9baZHLBzcMyj3z4m8118of0WIkrDN__NFEncCSo4WsSe02AQgjxygSykV-82xVNajl_Nk1nVYo2AchShE0TiRKXU2MhgMkipqXIqkdNUjKUrjOJTBdyePQTpcQFBzU_c-MhJ6DnyptqH3C5U3d7EZ1g3VU9Vc/s1498/foi8.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="164" data-original-width="1498" height="70" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZV-dOppv5Nyah3U0gRUbDONfikit25u9baZHLBzcMyj3z4m8118of0WIkrDN__NFEncCSo4WsSe02AQgjxygSykV-82xVNajl_Nk1nVYo2AchShE0TiRKXU2MhgMkipqXIqkdNUjKUrjOJTBdyePQTpcQFBzU_c-MhJ6DnyptqH3C5U3d7EZ1g3VU9Vc/w640-h70/foi8.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p style="text-align: left;"></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Again Mr Mustard was asking what information Harrow Council held, clearly none at all.</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3pLivoozMURLMP1CGIWNm7PTIx1xI55Vz1lfRjFBwzXYtb_OviilGltR8aRjQpkXchPwO0jn99kEBcpuDqoDA-TBbTjIq2awT0BkKnooEIRlP5mCpRglO_eMF2iJACRCsv8Zer5WjX47Eevfax3M3gfJX5GKdqvvXA3Ort302HgWn0QnrsqKG3fyhx94/s1376/foi9.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="164" data-original-width="1376" height="76" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3pLivoozMURLMP1CGIWNm7PTIx1xI55Vz1lfRjFBwzXYtb_OviilGltR8aRjQpkXchPwO0jn99kEBcpuDqoDA-TBbTjIq2awT0BkKnooEIRlP5mCpRglO_eMF2iJACRCsv8Zer5WjX47Eevfax3M3gfJX5GKdqvvXA3Ort302HgWn0QnrsqKG3fyhx94/w640-h76/foi9.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Perhaps the time has come for an undergraduate or a professor of statistics to study this topic.</span><br /></div><div><p style="text-align: left;"></p><p style="text-align: left;"></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">What is clear to Mr Mustard is that any report presented to councillors, which probably won't contain much more useful information than has already been given to the public, won't really contain a proper basis for an informed decision to proceed with the re-banding.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard doesn't know how Harrow Council works and isn't a resident of Harrow so doubtless has limited hearing rights at any council meeting, but you the reader can play your part.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Please ask the hard questions, complain if you don't like the answers and go to any relevant council meeting and have your say.</span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">This survey is just laying the ground for revenue raising.</span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.<br /></span></p></div>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-36273610145615294842023-11-19T15:05:00.005+00:002023-11-19T15:14:14.525+00:00Haringey Council - liars<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Mr Courteous (not his real name) is a licensed Private Hire Driver. He had a booking to pick up a fare in The Broadway, Crouch End and take them to Heathrow. He was issued a PCN whilst picking up. He made his own challenge (if you want Mr Mustard to help you it is best you come to him at the start so you don't queer the pitch - luckily Mr Courteous hadn't as not only is he courteous he is smart and truthful).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Here is the vehicle.</span></p><p></p><table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><tbody><tr><td style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1Cdo2r3o6_gqC741X63JKMMgBig_1zkmeZeMIdKMg3cNtAR_8tnJ9wwr727S0NL5waVQJm1ZYZe_rTnpxqJuyGX27P1_2jSKtSYWK3hzTYyxGochBaqMO-r0kFbuYYB7gMb9t8zK5GaOYM3rXvEd35-FLJ_GWXQlTJVtSFE5lsERq0oXwAKzfi650J1k/s640/car%20redacted.jpg" style="font-family: verdana; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;"><img border="0" data-original-height="480" data-original-width="640" height="240" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg1Cdo2r3o6_gqC741X63JKMMgBig_1zkmeZeMIdKMg3cNtAR_8tnJ9wwr727S0NL5waVQJm1ZYZe_rTnpxqJuyGX27P1_2jSKtSYWK3hzTYyxGochBaqMO-r0kFbuYYB7gMb9t8zK5GaOYM3rXvEd35-FLJ_GWXQlTJVtSFE5lsERq0oXwAKzfi650J1k/s320/car%20redacted.jpg" width="320" /></a></span></td></tr><tr align="justify"><td class="tr-caption"><span style="color: #2b00fe; font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Note the no loading kerb stripes, they do not forbid boarding of passengers, nor do single or double yellows</span><span style="color: #2b00fe; font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">.<br /></span></td></tr></tbody></table><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"><br /><span>Here is the sign.</span></span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCdhF3vf0rF2wzv5CpHeZEPBAmFitD2BIaD0SNiESHWoQZ4IZ0H67dpGDiFf-QWdwjUeJwyhGzvEnPyob935v4idQifc6H9BR8vjRxCVnOzdjcM4XUtmafxFS9SQl4DLgzBxDwS0lDc-kvhKF-CFCSPuPe2PL6LzPw7N37qQlACS8-aZiw_GY_pYF54Ag/s640/3.jpeg" style="font-family: verdana; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="640" data-original-width="480" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiCdhF3vf0rF2wzv5CpHeZEPBAmFitD2BIaD0SNiESHWoQZ4IZ0H67dpGDiFf-QWdwjUeJwyhGzvEnPyob935v4idQifc6H9BR8vjRxCVnOzdjcM4XUtmafxFS9SQl4DLgzBxDwS0lDc-kvhKF-CFCSPuPe2PL6LzPw7N37qQlACS8-aZiw_GY_pYF54Ag/s320/3.jpeg" width="240" /></a></span></div><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"><br /></span><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">You can see from the time of the photographs that we are within the no waiting and no loading times but they are irrelevant to picking up a passenger as is the suspended bay sign which didn't apply on the day in question.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Mr Courteous expected that if he provided proper documentation his PCN would be cancelled and so this is what he wrote:</span></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"><i><span style="color: #2b00fe;">Hello, I received this PCN whilst working. I am a registered TFL PCO driver and I was parked there only to pick up a client. I went to knock on the door as the customer phone number was not working. I saw the traffic warden who issued the ticket and he just said I have to appeal as it had already been started. As a licensed PCO driver I am allowed to drop off and pick up customer s in restricted bays, red routes and Bus lanes. So I am unsure why this was issued. I humble be ask you to review this PCN. I attach a copy of the PHV license and a copy of the booking as proof.</span></i></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Anyone who has much experience of council parking departments will know that they reject the first challenge without<i> </i>a second thought, as they duly did<i>.</i></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjVVVB79oaBkoYjmFLpx99MFqIV2UkzsWV9ZOueQccY4jazLHkzVvCmlfHJ7CvjZCQHWQEig7CtZgtrIIZdpI4qQ51HgnLwrFQGuKagvRH0QuPL6HmN3TxtYnqNbgajfX2G6xHGZ97NFm1siDJc9n9_5KIzRXW8ViXEYSyK4fAsrHQ-T6QlPt6ANU7-5U4/s768/inf%20rej%20extract.PNG" style="font-family: verdana; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="385" data-original-width="768" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjVVVB79oaBkoYjmFLpx99MFqIV2UkzsWV9ZOueQccY4jazLHkzVvCmlfHJ7CvjZCQHWQEig7CtZgtrIIZdpI4qQ51HgnLwrFQGuKagvRH0QuPL6HmN3TxtYnqNbgajfX2G6xHGZ97NFm1siDJc9n9_5KIzRXW8ViXEYSyK4fAsrHQ-T6QlPt6ANU7-5U4/w640-h320/inf%20rej%20extract.PNG" width="640" /></a></span></div><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"><br /></span><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Mr Mustard has highlighted sections which he does not believe to be true<i>.</i></span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"><i> </i></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">If Haringey Council had carefully considered what was written they would not have said the driver was not seen as Mr Courteous has reported a conversation and in addition told me that the 'traffic warden' appeared out of a shop (was he 'hiding' there or perhaps just having a coffee or using the loo?). The usual problem is, Mr Mustard thinks, that after the traffic warden has closed the PCN on his handheld equipment he cannot add further notes and he must have already noted 'DNS' (driver not seen) whilst issuing the PCN and that became an out of date entry he could not correct (Mr Mustard will send for the notes).</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">The 'our evidence' statement is probably only meant to be read as their evidence is that the driver was not seen, there is no reason to believe they know anything in the back office about the passenger as the traffic warden won't have made notes about them. This is, of course, a standard sentence, a poor standard as it starts with 'And', because it refers to 'picking up or dropping off' when the council has already been told this was an arranged collection and were sent an unredacted copy of the booking.</span></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUIgPZdzYMz_pbNgLIzMCWLNyWs2IqKiSJ5lYE-dbVg2Zu3Ra0So7KzUnBdYCbkBLEmcMe1lWpOd8q3qztHUENu4qfry7CIyqTRWdPKcWtADyUvkd4D_pFf_6fwi2ueZuZCo2jpzUNT3NlKEqLP27jTT_aVvFeqO8-ETtm9HGgAPc0B2_nJbZrTxnM1Z4/s1290/redacted%20job.jpg" style="font-family: verdana; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1141" data-original-width="1290" height="177" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjUIgPZdzYMz_pbNgLIzMCWLNyWs2IqKiSJ5lYE-dbVg2Zu3Ra0So7KzUnBdYCbkBLEmcMe1lWpOd8q3qztHUENu4qfry7CIyqTRWdPKcWtADyUvkd4D_pFf_6fwi2ueZuZCo2jpzUNT3NlKEqLP27jTT_aVvFeqO8-ETtm9HGgAPc0B2_nJbZrTxnM1Z4/w200-h177/redacted%20job.jpg" width="200" /></a></span></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">The council either don't know the law or are pretending they don't in order to induce the motorist into paying up. This is what the judge said in the case of Makda, a key case on the traffic adjudicator tribunal website:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjr87XYaoLM0oeRMIF7-rXpzFKdJxk7jTAw30NFRvMeV9MIrhdbEtbxDufxVVREKXfUbrWdLCbffqe-RIx_l44u-CbFT56pVi_sUlmh47uV3fDzQOZPlpfI1FzguvzSSHYLtdXGXaBhx5YCqDzgo1FSC_Ky3ubMUuqs9BBEllK0HOU_z8kyN2lOWM1KTCk/s678/extract%20makda.PNG" style="font-family: verdana; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="332" data-original-width="678" height="314" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjr87XYaoLM0oeRMIF7-rXpzFKdJxk7jTAw30NFRvMeV9MIrhdbEtbxDufxVVREKXfUbrWdLCbffqe-RIx_l44u-CbFT56pVi_sUlmh47uV3fDzQOZPlpfI1FzguvzSSHYLtdXGXaBhx5YCqDzgo1FSC_Ky3ubMUuqs9BBEllK0HOU_z8kyN2lOWM1KTCk/w640-h314/extract%20makda.PNG" width="640" /></a></span></div><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"><br /><span>The council's traffic order contains this exemption</span></span><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4lvZK5Jzud9Bs91_VKmjZbsjjYS2IBRFkM7gYcwOy3zsAMOnwIyuMAVurDdkhwA11fsfRz14ShmPP2f8fML-Bigt2da9oFud5c4x2Q3N4JuCyTac_GzCNqx65E0IHbSY05GC0Pazhu6UnTG0Dzb8bQZtCbc8v6iNp7ya32U_4koW1zW08hcCgSWuRwJE/s796/tmo%20exemption.PNG" style="font-family: verdana; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="222" data-original-width="796" height="178" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4lvZK5Jzud9Bs91_VKmjZbsjjYS2IBRFkM7gYcwOy3zsAMOnwIyuMAVurDdkhwA11fsfRz14ShmPP2f8fML-Bigt2da9oFud5c4x2Q3N4JuCyTac_GzCNqx65E0IHbSY05GC0Pazhu6UnTG0Dzb8bQZtCbc8v6iNp7ya32U_4koW1zW08hcCgSWuRwJE/w640-h178/tmo%20exemption.PNG" width="640" /></a></span></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">An adjudicator won't strictly apply the 2 minute time period as they recognise that sometimes the passenger may not be quite ready, they want a final visit to the loo perhaps, they need to check they haven't left the gas on, closed all the windows and double checked they have their passport, tickets and money. They may also live on the third floor, there isn't a lift and they have two 20kg bags which have to be slowly carried down. The driver is the servant in this relationship.<br /></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Looking at this particular collection, the passenger did not answer her phone and so the driver had three choices. The first was to drive away but it is only 9:27 on arrival (the council's first photo shows) so the driver was slightly early which Mr Mustard regards as being on time and driving away leaves the passenger in danger of missing their flight and the driver £105 down on the deal.<br /></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">The second is to sit there and see if the passenger appears and the third is to do as he did and go and ring the doorbell. A private hire driver really can't be expected to have all of his passengers waiting on the pavement for him, come rain or shine, because the public will find another driver if that is how they are treated (it is fine for local Uber journeys) the concept of delivering the ordered service seems to have escaped the parking department at Haringey Council.<br /></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">What is clear from the Makda decision is that time spent looking for your passenger is exempt time. In the Makda case he hung around for a short time and then left but the way in which adjudicators interpret the judgment is like this, which relates to a Barnet council PCN:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size: small;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhew5kZFZo1GnNHhmh4ed5EgNlXlzPnbnXST7ICd0UhFYidZrpxmb8UPO2tEQ-SWYCZUPAkhLFZabr7nfCMJ5LUumYE1r31yJo6ekrQ4ozhYLjgCz6gmdmArMwZHr9P2h9vzutvi4PSP7OFH1ywKo4UKJ6fg_-Bqw8qpHDHumzml5dP8PrMc4FUGDz2zls/s606/following%20makda.PNG" style="font-family: verdana; margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="419" data-original-width="606" height="442" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhew5kZFZo1GnNHhmh4ed5EgNlXlzPnbnXST7ICd0UhFYidZrpxmb8UPO2tEQ-SWYCZUPAkhLFZabr7nfCMJ5LUumYE1r31yJo6ekrQ4ozhYLjgCz6gmdmArMwZHr9P2h9vzutvi4PSP7OFH1ywKo4UKJ6fg_-Bqw8qpHDHumzml5dP8PrMc4FUGDz2zls/w640-h442/following%20makda.PNG" width="640" /></a></span></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Mr Mustard will be making representations in due course against the Notice to Owner and if Haringey Council reject those he will be off to the tribunal and will be hopeful of gaining a cancellation.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">There is a duty on councils as expressed by Lord Mustill</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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<![endif]--><span face=""Arial", sans-serif" style="color: #2b00fe;"> <span>Where an Act of Parliament confers an
administrative power there is a presumption that it will be exercised in a
manner which is fair in all the circumstances</span></span></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">Unfortunately over the years as more and more parking enforcement powers are sub-contracted out to commercial companies, rather then being the sole province of civil servants, there has been a steady drift away from the concepts of service and the principles of the Nolan code (which include itegrity and honesty) into one of writing absolutely anything you like, whether a truth or a lie, because there is very little in the way of adverse consequences for telling a lie as in this case.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">We need a PCN ombudsman to drive up standards of honesty.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: small;">The end (for now).</span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-64710853842095903752023-11-08T15:35:00.003+00:002023-11-08T15:35:57.233+00:00Harrow Council want your money <p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: arial;">Harrow Council want to change their PCN value banding from Band B (Outer London) to Band A (central London) which would add another £20 to each PCN ('parking ticket').</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: arial;">You can make your views known <a href="https://talk.harrow.gov.uk/pcn-re-banding/survey_tools/pcn-penalty-charge-notice-change-of-banding-survey" target="_blank">here</a>. Harrow Council insist that you register with them which is a bit of a pain but they don't collect much data. You could have your account deleted later.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: arial;">Mr Mustard registered and completed the survey which is refreshingly short. The main basis of the council's reasoning is that the number of PCNs has not reduced much so they aren't working. That is bogus reasoning, the number of factors will be multiple ones. The situation in Harrow has already improved over recent years.</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjvDQ0xgc_mhicI9qQ3Yw5SFV2xfy8Mn9FmF-gRvqv3OuZJ29z_lxJFBJdIXMbTYlidMLyS_HsgdP0Ca5HYr50Ka6EZFT-Lm0ZnmBo4pMR_YH82YuleBHe8pGOT7H1cMYpa7GiHGYuFhJnX5ZA3A4C_rfGJ4MHjvyK__cKNvFZoMq8Z3A-o8YqppeyIsqs/s590/harrow%20pcn%20numbers.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="289" data-original-width="590" height="314" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjvDQ0xgc_mhicI9qQ3Yw5SFV2xfy8Mn9FmF-gRvqv3OuZJ29z_lxJFBJdIXMbTYlidMLyS_HsgdP0Ca5HYr50Ka6EZFT-Lm0ZnmBo4pMR_YH82YuleBHe8pGOT7H1cMYpa7GiHGYuFhJnX5ZA3A4C_rfGJ4MHjvyK__cKNvFZoMq8Z3A-o8YqppeyIsqs/w640-h314/harrow%20pcn%20numbers.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has completed the survey and here are his answers complete with his spelling errors.</span><p></p><p><br /><span style="font-family: arial;"><br /></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6rUGrX4-qpgL_JCELS8SMTzVwjqce-tu9-Vx5c5T4mSN-eZ1eblxJUXQBciTfGBQoW2EwtujOncoB24r6dSTSZqXClLi1VoJ7m3NHbv4B5mfWTReUDrtd3eKJUL_EICXzu-GgU1sb3YHtUit7aT-vDBnsbKZuc_8pR1beD1NuqEUXnn51jiT7oevC4_0/s688/harrow%20pcnab1.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="688" data-original-width="634" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi6rUGrX4-qpgL_JCELS8SMTzVwjqce-tu9-Vx5c5T4mSN-eZ1eblxJUXQBciTfGBQoW2EwtujOncoB24r6dSTSZqXClLi1VoJ7m3NHbv4B5mfWTReUDrtd3eKJUL_EICXzu-GgU1sb3YHtUit7aT-vDBnsbKZuc_8pR1beD1NuqEUXnn51jiT7oevC4_0/w590-h640/harrow%20pcnab1.PNG" width="590" /></a></div><br /><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">You have until 12 November to respond.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.</span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-79539109915477297492023-10-18T17:57:00.002+01:002023-10-18T17:57:52.545+01:00A 50% increase in numbers of PCN in London isn't because they are cheap<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard's second blog on this subject now he has the statistics helpfully provided by London Councils. He gets a weekly 'Key Issues' email from them which he tweeted about this morning.</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0_LvBO-ENx5uhH0nnwEv3h4A2uVKjfBN0T8zH3cM_ggIQTRaNeGZ9LJjyWK0qt2ydnI_nytdK_N6G37VVjP7VJKoOYMiY2u5SCSvC0JFDkoxKzSNnLc16KRH-fXKIVlfHzBRbfDdbEgJBpdibXirywyjXhUeV-n4SzZWDwp_ApUw_VDZzzT2RzCZOu38/s801/lc%20key%20issues.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="801" data-original-width="616" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0_LvBO-ENx5uhH0nnwEv3h4A2uVKjfBN0T8zH3cM_ggIQTRaNeGZ9LJjyWK0qt2ydnI_nytdK_N6G37VVjP7VJKoOYMiY2u5SCSvC0JFDkoxKzSNnLc16KRH-fXKIVlfHzBRbfDdbEgJBpdibXirywyjXhUeV-n4SzZWDwp_ApUw_VDZzzT2RzCZOu38/w492-h640/lc%20key%20issues.PNG" width="492" /></a></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard wanted to track down the 50% statistic. It is true overall but one must look at parking, bus lanes and moving traffic (banned turns, congestion charging ULEZ, yellow boxes etc) separately.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Once he had the statistics he found a much more nuanced picture and that led to an email to London Councils</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzg11chyXJyxk6ockKbVeG1Gpo3FwkzEPUYFT0JlVHLc6Vpq-jp8wRJifHbTbeF3IUO5qJ6EfimvIlv9aSTsuzy2Xlj_guIpqnO-OiBSkdQXswxlLBkt8AWcuowcLHoSg2Oqa7s0GEkBQ3NRPF4LnGZdnHrWExcTyLQ840e9MnFAfsevWuKCA8U8bwcD4/s776/londopn%20councils%20stats1.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="776" data-original-width="581" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzg11chyXJyxk6ockKbVeG1Gpo3FwkzEPUYFT0JlVHLc6Vpq-jp8wRJifHbTbeF3IUO5qJ6EfimvIlv9aSTsuzy2Xlj_guIpqnO-OiBSkdQXswxlLBkt8AWcuowcLHoSg2Oqa7s0GEkBQ3NRPF4LnGZdnHrWExcTyLQ840e9MnFAfsevWuKCA8U8bwcD4/w480-h640/londopn%20councils%20stats1.PNG" width="480" /></a></div><br /><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgh4wGARzL6JUyb7ur10jraRG5MK-RbfG57toeW1Rpfi-SZkOeScKHYQ5W8BBTCl30pZHKZPbu6ijIgvWXhAso5yduUAO3LrXkq1IdXjps3mB6dYYDJqmC750SGfMgBhj0twW9AyATnqqyouVIlxNYX1jZKzlqeBVl_Wyaq3ABVOjnzEm4RAKcWaDej1jA/s574/londopn%20councils%20stats2.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="245" data-original-width="574" height="274" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgh4wGARzL6JUyb7ur10jraRG5MK-RbfG57toeW1Rpfi-SZkOeScKHYQ5W8BBTCl30pZHKZPbu6ijIgvWXhAso5yduUAO3LrXkq1IdXjps3mB6dYYDJqmC750SGfMgBhj0twW9AyATnqqyouVIlxNYX1jZKzlqeBVl_Wyaq3ABVOjnzEm4RAKcWaDej1jA/w640-h274/londopn%20councils%20stats2.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;">There is still time to comment on the proposals, <a href="https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/LondonParkingChargesConsultation" target="_blank">here</a>.</span><br /><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">End</span></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-15932194751159504112023-10-12T16:51:00.001+01:002023-10-12T16:51:08.893+01:00PCN values in London - too high, too low or about right?<p><span style="font-family: verdana;">London Councils is the umbrella body for London Boroughs, it has some statutory roles when it comes to parking and is looked to for guidance on toher matters. You can find out more about them on their website, <a href="https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/" target="_blank">here</a>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">They are running a survey on PCN values as they describe below</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1TOvUx2ZLxrkjvYqwdB03HAQ_Z23eE4zwfk2cdsgLnXCPaAB5s1PlLkBt3jj4Z_opA5VCKNr2QTv7oiYKEE0gdfH2E746dMD8POZMSYebKft6E_sBQIvxVkf7pJRBspia6u3NSmE0Za5uoRTCAqttwke-dDdvPgmnGGKuHtK-adChUUaPqnRTLB8b7cc/s820/survey%20reason.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="484" data-original-width="820" height="378" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1TOvUx2ZLxrkjvYqwdB03HAQ_Z23eE4zwfk2cdsgLnXCPaAB5s1PlLkBt3jj4Z_opA5VCKNr2QTv7oiYKEE0gdfH2E746dMD8POZMSYebKft6E_sBQIvxVkf7pJRBspia6u3NSmE0Za5uoRTCAqttwke-dDdvPgmnGGKuHtK-adChUUaPqnRTLB8b7cc/w640-h378/survey%20reason.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is a <a href="https://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/LondonParkingChargesConsultation" target="_blank">link</a> to information about the survey in case you wish to respond.</span><br /></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has responded and also sent an extra email, which he shows you below.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0HkEXCNigAia1acmzUsL4JjcrArfrK4NFHVf0ofw1aHiPy41y9aWlZ0MhUKPdcjTZFGkmS96JqOyeV8E7uwfxfdrkEeZ5G959b6U_DVoCQ108nP6eSRUDGm1QUNarglP0BGLNdJZVQ450EeGGWioHIyGkaXYh3raQDa07GzsjrMY92QSr3NETzWcN_z8/s529/pcn%204.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="195" data-original-width="529" height="236" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0HkEXCNigAia1acmzUsL4JjcrArfrK4NFHVf0ofw1aHiPy41y9aWlZ0MhUKPdcjTZFGkmS96JqOyeV8E7uwfxfdrkEeZ5G959b6U_DVoCQ108nP6eSRUDGm1QUNarglP0BGLNdJZVQ450EeGGWioHIyGkaXYh3raQDa07GzsjrMY92QSr3NETzWcN_z8/w640-h236/pcn%204.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /> <p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end. </span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-5376312473520549042023-08-24T14:56:00.002+01:002023-08-24T14:56:44.078+01:00I 'regret' that I must twist the knife<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_VHcEtwEs6ML6IiU8lQWrR9EzOuRNNdtueynJ2hfEIJLrbh92JrTwO12WRDwt3_IAyvjy-4NHvmWd2wX5eJOGtRGPV_rLFdh_oWfmr81qvXgvxf6DUMX2NnAQpbOIr8zQZz-45L6toYycjUWYL8OU_NwIl0tEjVl1AoDV1GIg1ephuMb7Nh7WwZIP6o8/s1267/ebr1.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="715" data-original-width="1267" height="226" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj_VHcEtwEs6ML6IiU8lQWrR9EzOuRNNdtueynJ2hfEIJLrbh92JrTwO12WRDwt3_IAyvjy-4NHvmWd2wX5eJOGtRGPV_rLFdh_oWfmr81qvXgvxf6DUMX2NnAQpbOIr8zQZz-45L6toYycjUWYL8OU_NwIl0tEjVl1AoDV1GIg1ephuMb7Nh7WwZIP6o8/w400-h226/ebr1.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Almost every time that Mr Mustard travels along East Barnet Road he see vehicles parked on the pavement, as borne out by historic google street view images. Mr Mustard never sees a PCN on them. Mr Mustard has watched a 'traffic warden' on his scooter ride straight past them. Someone told Mr Mustard that a traffic warden was either threatened with violence or met with some and so now enforcement simply doesn't take place on that section of pavement nor here:</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlvDb0J3XtS7s5DxCbIg6kQqEEoKJYQ9QbjHp9kmSX-GbvaGpiQoyWD6Q2Tw_tDhoom29-ivAsNFpjH5ly37P0W7wQP4PQBWtA5zOC0jgoCBjaHGnhQogjVoOmVBAhePGH3hNuH8KtvnSCH45vQoUtdw4dD5pyw-uhWFet9-xfuCtYAS8Ce3zD_RxMYyM/s1351/puregym.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="751" data-original-width="1351" height="223" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlvDb0J3XtS7s5DxCbIg6kQqEEoKJYQ9QbjHp9kmSX-GbvaGpiQoyWD6Q2Tw_tDhoom29-ivAsNFpjH5ly37P0W7wQP4PQBWtA5zOC0jgoCBjaHGnhQogjVoOmVBAhePGH3hNuH8KtvnSCH45vQoUtdw4dD5pyw-uhWFet9-xfuCtYAS8Ce3zD_RxMYyM/w400-h223/puregym.JPG" width="400" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Unfortunately however if you a peaceable lady of a certain age, who parks with 2 wheels on the pavement in a hurry with her blue badge showing as she needs the toilet, you will be given a PCN as your car isn't known to be that of an unsavoury character.</span><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">If anyone knows the story about this location do email <a href="mailto:mrmustard@zoho.com">mrmustard@zoho.com</a></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The lady, we'll call her Lady X, has had mental health problems for the 8 years that Mr Mustard has known her. Little will be disclosed so that she is not identified. She sent in her own challenge explaining how she came to park as she had. Shortly after that her adult son died unexpectedly.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard decided to write in and ask for cancellation, in the following terms:</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikZwdG_Pbf2obAkao-KvafqTQMe7bOCTKH2qvL7rDi8KHBft8WpsU_8Ri8YvMJHPkXRAdxMgTRBOsY-QK7NYK6I7yqQa1UXN0gje-8Woi4boxghvvvsvU81PLlj-7YXcXbuq5a-ysc5rWUxAgf3tla8YpO8_4qyFz5J3a8SB7MvvXLRxVAV9pd0xFnl2o/s604/lady%20x%20inf%20ch.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="83" data-original-width="604" height="88" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikZwdG_Pbf2obAkao-KvafqTQMe7bOCTKH2qvL7rDi8KHBft8WpsU_8Ri8YvMJHPkXRAdxMgTRBOsY-QK7NYK6I7yqQa1UXN0gje-8Woi4boxghvvvsvU81PLlj-7YXcXbuq5a-ysc5rWUxAgf3tla8YpO8_4qyFz5J3a8SB7MvvXLRxVAV9pd0xFnl2o/w640-h88/lady%20x%20inf%20ch.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">You will guess what happened next. The request was refused.</span><p></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5NIKiE-g2IB3ym8HTvA5JKf9DLeCXEQx41QARbkL6Whx5l1MbzV3Ql9_7-YtRmS8teigcpIdn9uPr7bvL0dhhXWyX7bSS4MaWIdWtNIpds6MCISTB-6kwB70qgSSZuJWw4nbLMpcbxwQ6_NyVbce4qMUVIjNnle07-9esru4fbIvlalu3vVCtYXXNuck/s1193/firstly%20i.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="791" data-original-width="1193" height="424" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg5NIKiE-g2IB3ym8HTvA5JKf9DLeCXEQx41QARbkL6Whx5l1MbzV3Ql9_7-YtRmS8teigcpIdn9uPr7bvL0dhhXWyX7bSS4MaWIdWtNIpds6MCISTB-6kwB70qgSSZuJWw4nbLMpcbxwQ6_NyVbce4qMUVIjNnle07-9esru4fbIvlalu3vVCtYXXNuck/w640-h424/firstly%20i.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Are the condolences sincere? Mr Musatrd doesn't think so.</span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Is the regret genuine? No. <br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Will this response do a mentally ill person any good? Mr Mustard doubts it.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Could the council afford to let one PCN go? Yes, of course.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Does the writer sympathise with the situation? No, they just just twist the knife.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has no idea how these faceless letter writers can live with their consciences.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.</span></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-84926244306206389462023-08-09T00:15:00.001+01:002023-08-09T00:15:05.691+01:00Redbridge Council - boxes its own ears<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard's ears prick up when he sees a Council v Council entry on the tribunal website and he asks the council for all the paperwork behind the PCN. He doesn't always get it all but he gets enough to show the idiocy of the PCN system. In this case the council didn't fight the tribunal Appeal which it started against itself.<br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is the PCN.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmlNNFOZLAkmuLKM6Cg6iIYGhD_s4OFvq2S6niTTG4-Upic6KvifGsa6RiQr_3fPEHm4I51xJO66jFcPab8Sh_amrsA3PmAg-siCCUjlc0MCcMm1_abeAwLmy-V0DiQBGeuWiyE-ScRGR5LGpHbowB3K5C6HBqNbX4rAVGDb1-9nNY-gVDLAs7e0RFYPw/s1117/pcn.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="883" data-original-width="1117" height="506" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmlNNFOZLAkmuLKM6Cg6iIYGhD_s4OFvq2S6niTTG4-Upic6KvifGsa6RiQr_3fPEHm4I51xJO66jFcPab8Sh_amrsA3PmAg-siCCUjlc0MCcMm1_abeAwLmy-V0DiQBGeuWiyE-ScRGR5LGpHbowB3K5C6HBqNbX4rAVGDb1-9nNY-gVDLAs7e0RFYPw/w640-h506/pcn.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">There is no profit to be had from this PCN, it is simply a case of moving money from one council budget to another one, or not.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard didn't get a copy of the representations which were supposedly exempt but it doesn't really matter, they won't have been that radical.</span></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard did get the video and here it is.
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</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"> <br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">He was sent the rejection notice.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgb6KuaqTtFZk-zkHzK6r-9z8jFcQ8n63PcgFdtDJndwzgB8EEbCasRCMrOx9d_2b0chwk7QtE3YjL7ad6Vt_jF8jHUZHHPZbOmjPoQGh-uYKTKhtt9cv3Rsz90DWdmNSUMROdXuw1q94w8WiewsOllSTm1AjXXLya43jC0rzM9ydInYt5ZQe9vKlYJO7w/s848/nor.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="848" data-original-width="778" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgb6KuaqTtFZk-zkHzK6r-9z8jFcQ8n63PcgFdtDJndwzgB8EEbCasRCMrOx9d_2b0chwk7QtE3YjL7ad6Vt_jF8jHUZHHPZbOmjPoQGh-uYKTKhtt9cv3Rsz90DWdmNSUMROdXuw1q94w8WiewsOllSTm1AjXXLya43jC0rzM9ydInYt5ZQe9vKlYJO7w/w588-h640/nor.JPG" width="588" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The rejection is a dismal piece of work because what you can't see in the video is the exit of the box so no-one knows why the vehicle stopped and the reason has to be because of stationary vehicles, what vehicles? There aren't any in shot. Adjudicators cancel PCNs for this reason all the time.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard went up and down Ley Street on google. It is rather long. Mr Mustard only found one yellow box, viz:</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlkc_VuSZ5eZ0PgCyYxrQRYf7cDl3qirOdamomqpeN-k6ZLQ-F0BEmCiSECzqPdvNvzea7wYF24SgPF19aPnLFcCr6Vhk2CuHdHGQFnc2jgBzQ4dap1QhcHZtI_OeykO2sOWCHHUmpDBnLDTsXuFfQBMaSW3uO-CTKgFozUniY4vB41is279JXcBLJevA/s1877/ley%20street.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="813" data-original-width="1877" height="278" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjlkc_VuSZ5eZ0PgCyYxrQRYf7cDl3qirOdamomqpeN-k6ZLQ-F0BEmCiSECzqPdvNvzea7wYF24SgPF19aPnLFcCr6Vhk2CuHdHGQFnc2jgBzQ4dap1QhcHZtI_OeykO2sOWCHHUmpDBnLDTsXuFfQBMaSW3uO-CTKgFozUniY4vB41is279JXcBLJevA/w640-h278/ley%20street.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Where is this? It is at the entrance to the council depot. Mr Mustard wonders if the necessary steps were followed before the council painted a box intended to aid their workers but which they now use to penalise their workers? Laurel and Hardy have some competition it seems.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard did ask if the camera had been adjusted to better show the box and the answer was that it had.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard also asked how many PCNs the council had issued to itself in the year ended 31 March 2023. The answer was 107.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard also asked if the motorists caught in that box, which was inadequately covered by camera, would be refunded and of course the answer was 'no'.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">There is little honour in Redbridge.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.</span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-15743640108961050902023-08-08T14:58:00.001+01:002023-08-08T14:58:25.515+01:00Islington Council - one off error or are you due a refund?<p><span style="font-family: verdana;">One of Mr Mustard's regulars (he is a big contributor to the hospice as well, £50 for every PCN I beat) got the below PCN.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjjAHeqGFOdAUMK5OL2AJfX8YEwzYdWBmuteWa4E_vFRKS5fIIKFiVVoK1XHxLCzkVxOzwiEywK8rJSonB7aAmp8oJJ_NKF9chLtL1tQ_MLIrJ3lEP9GQli-E5kx3VA1OsT_8kgaW33oacbPp4uPGZNVw20ZB2mhw-9XibrHs9_QyAu_Q46WR8FPgtfaxc/s810/islington%20duff%20pcn.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="810" data-original-width="611" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjjAHeqGFOdAUMK5OL2AJfX8YEwzYdWBmuteWa4E_vFRKS5fIIKFiVVoK1XHxLCzkVxOzwiEywK8rJSonB7aAmp8oJJ_NKF9chLtL1tQ_MLIrJ3lEP9GQli-E5kx3VA1OsT_8kgaW33oacbPp4uPGZNVw20ZB2mhw-9XibrHs9_QyAu_Q46WR8FPgtfaxc/w482-h640/islington%20duff%20pcn.png" width="482" /></a></div>Mr Mustard concluded that it did not meet the requirements to be a PCN and an adjudicator agreed.<p></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNiNMDioQEQi6mWcdcEvgWp4h9gT9Clrph9Bq7ZIjI2MwZgnQvkHGSXoqPiBnqaY9xHrq0Akcq11fGJxuCf6qoj2Pltuwf6e43lLm4Rqz3Hs2WJwsg5hWmO1E1KIbZVxvo7PbeZ0PMX66bg2qh0dX9yeqtkbLh3HiyyEA-uV6bAr98EOp8WaX2sVOYGbQ/s693/islington%20tribunal%20decision.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="113" data-original-width="693" height="104" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhNiNMDioQEQi6mWcdcEvgWp4h9gT9Clrph9Bq7ZIjI2MwZgnQvkHGSXoqPiBnqaY9xHrq0Akcq11fGJxuCf6qoj2Pltuwf6e43lLm4Rqz3Hs2WJwsg5hWmO1E1KIbZVxvo7PbeZ0PMX66bg2qh0dX9yeqtkbLh3HiyyEA-uV6bAr98EOp8WaX2sVOYGbQ/w640-h104/islington%20tribunal%20decision.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;">The usual on street Islington PCN looks like this</span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZ5swUib_3NGDLuuKlGhSbiJ0OvZAmvCra1II4F8DMPDWhrVokRqBSZn51UV2p8QqI8RGNZRRZxur5zHJCCFvJYzkvcOpseyNplVTZ1lcSPTPT1PezXAnz_fkvQ-QUkXg2k-5cezMXBFgd1uLJPfR_YsxTj72Bf4t-wVN_4P06TBa3X8wAsb7MRoqVGb4/s812/islington%20correct%20pcn.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="812" data-original-width="652" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZ5swUib_3NGDLuuKlGhSbiJ0OvZAmvCra1II4F8DMPDWhrVokRqBSZn51UV2p8QqI8RGNZRRZxur5zHJCCFvJYzkvcOpseyNplVTZ1lcSPTPT1PezXAnz_fkvQ-QUkXg2k-5cezMXBFgd1uLJPfR_YsxTj72Bf4t-wVN_4P06TBa3X8wAsb7MRoqVGb4/w514-h640/islington%20correct%20pcn.png" width="514" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard didn't think there could be many defective PCNs in Islington (it might just have been one handheld machine on one day with the wrong template loaded) but all the same he asked the question of the council. He received an open and honest response.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhepOu7kp677pjsnYsXSjS_GrLbz8YamJC8PwmDsZ3WX3fdtClJbl-Uz7sSpgZOIOpW1xuvi3gdFPBCXM6Cv_IBox2N5AFQcnItye9ESEsU9B2cZa3qS3rI68u4Lrz1ETnO15GZMSg-zus3IhvqneerQGm7FJNWPoOZmFpv90_ONRhWEPdQSIXs_efOvS8/s1152/isl%20duff%20pcn%20response.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="612" data-original-width="1152" height="340" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhepOu7kp677pjsnYsXSjS_GrLbz8YamJC8PwmDsZ3WX3fdtClJbl-Uz7sSpgZOIOpW1xuvi3gdFPBCXM6Cv_IBox2N5AFQcnItye9ESEsU9B2cZa3qS3rI68u4Lrz1ETnO15GZMSg-zus3IhvqneerQGm7FJNWPoOZmFpv90_ONRhWEPdQSIXs_efOvS8/w640-h340/isl%20duff%20pcn%20response.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">You might wonder how the copies aren't easy to find. It is because they are produced from templates which change over time and there could be 50 or 100 machines in use on the street at any one time. Keeping that lot up to date must be a bit of a task. The council doesn't have a great big file of copies generated as they go, as 50% of PCNs will be paid without fuss and only 1% will end up at the tribunal when a copy will be needed. The council generate true copies on demand. Generating the wrong copy for the tribunal leads to a win if the motorist notices.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Anyway, if you have had a PCN from Islington this year or perhaps last (if you keep paperwork like Mr Mustard does) and it does not contain the date of the alleged contravention (it only has From/To times) and you have paid it, now is the time to ask for a refund.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end. </span><br /></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-38617532689451632212023-08-08T14:10:00.003+01:002023-08-08T14:10:37.434+01:00Islington Council - a role model<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhoMCu046R1VCjhIxALZylF9Bdjl2kk4MAYrwocXPNBur6XWySbYl1t3zQcJC2kkMBrFQNhv_7gMzrWSMUkH9jy3-oNQAepnfdYRPJXJ0n7eSW-FtJSCFMXc9ipD6VoSuv1kpfma3X3mq2ITNjAcm4s6Mh9BzHHlPaEfS3GAg0iM7t8M6dF4HLlQdTnAU4/s397/islington%20late.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="281" data-original-width="397" height="283" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhoMCu046R1VCjhIxALZylF9Bdjl2kk4MAYrwocXPNBur6XWySbYl1t3zQcJC2kkMBrFQNhv_7gMzrWSMUkH9jy3-oNQAepnfdYRPJXJ0n7eSW-FtJSCFMXc9ipD6VoSuv1kpfma3X3mq2ITNjAcm4s6Mh9BzHHlPaEfS3GAg0iM7t8M6dF4HLlQdTnAU4/w400-h283/islington%20late.png" width="400" /></a></div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The above PCN was issued to a lady who had passed away and her car was insured for family to drive until it went back to the lease company shortly thereafter. Islington Council were very considerate in cancelling without fuss.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard thought that the PCN was served late being more than 28 days after the alleged contravention date, that being the rule (with an exception or two) for moving traffic cases.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">He asked Islington how many such PCNs there were in the year to 31 March 2023. The answer was 1,162.</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard told Islington they should refund them all and made noises about going to the external auditor (a deadline he missed as he was away on holiday).</span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Being late didn't matter as it turns out that Islington Council have morals.</span></div><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh5cw92ez38VS8h_kD7ByzES2BmV4sQJZ-g4mm1N2syyNIafNAeORMjcDnZKO2EA2hsFQtSbk5gZ26sziIMJsu8srIuVIwsAwfHMZZ-O0lh3FdvGhpKPcsUCH8MthYfdD3zqT204sMwzj-NTKfi_ae2LO_QbbF28EvgTBm3sl1p7n2gk8SC7fZOwlrNvyo/s573/is%20fix%201.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="461" data-original-width="573" height="514" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh5cw92ez38VS8h_kD7ByzES2BmV4sQJZ-g4mm1N2syyNIafNAeORMjcDnZKO2EA2hsFQtSbk5gZ26sziIMJsu8srIuVIwsAwfHMZZ-O0lh3FdvGhpKPcsUCH8MthYfdD3zqT204sMwzj-NTKfi_ae2LO_QbbF28EvgTBm3sl1p7n2gk8SC7fZOwlrNvyo/w640-h514/is%20fix%201.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard complains quite often so likes to dole out some praise as well. </span><p></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-T-_06-LKRlWfuV-Lr2Jv5gMDD-tKJEJIZzhA-GiCcQd5hgoT06t5xZHrBB5zvYppOUjf7MxYMQzCZJ0rj_3vfjaUmoiUW8F6Pei-QK-BiFEl6Jq2kLAbGw1dIALgqJUerTZfV-dHI1Z_SErM_pinbeyWrgvInHCHIEOFBa90fXdPhUtCBky_NCitrZA/s564/is%20fix%202.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="169" data-original-width="564" height="192" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg-T-_06-LKRlWfuV-Lr2Jv5gMDD-tKJEJIZzhA-GiCcQd5hgoT06t5xZHrBB5zvYppOUjf7MxYMQzCZJ0rj_3vfjaUmoiUW8F6Pei-QK-BiFEl6Jq2kLAbGw1dIALgqJUerTZfV-dHI1Z_SErM_pinbeyWrgvInHCHIEOFBa90fXdPhUtCBky_NCitrZA/w640-h192/is%20fix%202.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;">The next story will be good news as well, also from Islington.</span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end.</span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-16677612450110167452023-07-28T13:24:00.002+01:002023-07-28T13:24:46.199+01:00Sweeping into the future<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhAWzlOmFoYrDGx3IuSYavwTg7kZ6DzeX2dGOGmeDHkhIR5IrJbRc2XfeNvbElxaT1nVxN0bnNSjfTg7v8-FHft2wwLirg1aqhnArU0un385-SAZKfK3flkNEGxTRhqxMNYvRDyfXLfG-t3aeuybShBDP9gqI4zZUvq5UBgmFXR38xo3Nyq0nB7cBtB4E8/s3888/Josh%20on%20Bike.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="2592" data-original-width="3888" height="426" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhAWzlOmFoYrDGx3IuSYavwTg7kZ6DzeX2dGOGmeDHkhIR5IrJbRc2XfeNvbElxaT1nVxN0bnNSjfTg7v8-FHft2wwLirg1aqhnArU0un385-SAZKfK3flkNEGxTRhqxMNYvRDyfXLfG-t3aeuybShBDP9gqI4zZUvq5UBgmFXR38xo3Nyq0nB7cBtB4E8/w640-h426/Josh%20on%20Bike.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard is a customer of H Firkin & Sons and was delighted to receive this email from them yesterday. If you have a chimney that needs to be swept do give them a whirl, they do a very good job, are always on time, polite and tidy.</span></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="color: #2b00fe; font-family: verdana;">Hello</span><span style="color: #2b00fe;"><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Please see this <a href="https://www.firkinschimneysweeps.co.uk/london-sweep-gets-on-his-bike-to-beat-mayor-sadiq-khans-ulez-charge/">link</a> to read more about our new bike.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">This is just a quick update for our customers about a new addition to our fleet, to try to do our bit to ease congestion in London and hopefully make us more efficient when working in certain parts of the capital.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">At H Firkins and Sons, we are the first chimney sweeping in company, and according to EAV the E-Bike manufacturer, the first trade company in London to invest in an EAV cargo bike (Others have been massive logistics companies like Amazon and FedEx). We purchased the bike a year ago now in July 2022, but we didn’t make much of a fuss about it as we wanted to first logistically get everything in place to make the most of it, and get used to using it and figure out how much quicker or slower it made our work in certain areas.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">It has replaced one of our older, diesel non ULEZ compliant vans.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">We have just one favour to ask. To make this work, we need to organise work in smaller geographical areas. If you can help us by booking in your chimney sweeping appointment as far in advance as possible so you can be as flexible as possible, we can keep jobs as local as as we can and go on our bike rather than van.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">If we can get work booked far enough in advance and organised well, our hope is we can replace another van with a bike, and soon do the majority of our work using bike rather than a minority.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">As a reference, over last winter, Josh Firkins (one of our family chimney sweeps) worked on average 3 out of 5 days on the bike. It wasn’t possible to organise it well enough at this point to fill 5 days for Josh with bike based work, nor was it possible to organise it for the other two vans we have on the road, run by Graham and Darren.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">We hope you will support us in this major change to our business, and I hope it demonstrates our willingness to do our bit to invest in reducing the congestion on the roads, reduce our carbon footprint and improve local air quality.</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">If you wish to make an appointment, please either call 02088869420 or contact us <a href="https://www.firkinschimneysweeps.co.uk/contact-us/" target="_blank">online</a> </span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Best wishes</span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">H Firkins and Sons - Chimney Sweeps </span></span></div>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-27418770030509929532023-07-25T08:39:00.005+01:002023-07-25T08:39:56.852+01:00Barnet Council - losing track of time.<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">An interesting and worrying decision yesterday at the tribunal (Mr Mustard looks at random results when he has the time).</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Hats off to <a href="http://www.rattiganplant.com/" target="_blank">J A Rattigan</a></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiy0UKGvtYfQjrHup4XOL-8vdrt-IMEBjWxD_C9kriaqndspVdU7Hfi57SYFsD0xD5bL97qDp_csr3oMJRki1pZzJj7X0N-lnoCgAs3B3J4HoNR-jQ-RJ6Ebom7WKlPQr_ANSqH4joeuHhXBFbRcLFeqG9HcZddfc-HIEAP0-2YXmJhprmSOjITC_QyPd0/s622/bst2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="622" data-original-width="571" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiy0UKGvtYfQjrHup4XOL-8vdrt-IMEBjWxD_C9kriaqndspVdU7Hfi57SYFsD0xD5bL97qDp_csr3oMJRki1pZzJj7X0N-lnoCgAs3B3J4HoNR-jQ-RJ6Ebom7WKlPQr_ANSqH4joeuHhXBFbRcLFeqG9HcZddfc-HIEAP0-2YXmJhprmSOjITC_QyPd0/w588-h640/bst2.JPG" width="588" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgA5B8y05zkGif_sq4t1sHIKNhqavWsjyxEasfhZUmSzrRXadVn4Xq6-jLvBAFXpmap07mdppxrnB4FIpKVJjP1DVaZDXzprP9JDQg9Hf5mYls6mXrvcNBJWaLRgb7jGZN8gjYUma4KoJs44YieG4tSUmNhSAwXKighdx5g9bUN4SXFWxpeOzkd2WbnQ4g/s809/bst%201.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="809" data-original-width="804" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgA5B8y05zkGif_sq4t1sHIKNhqavWsjyxEasfhZUmSzrRXadVn4Xq6-jLvBAFXpmap07mdppxrnB4FIpKVJjP1DVaZDXzprP9JDQg9Hf5mYls6mXrvcNBJWaLRgb7jGZN8gjYUma4KoJs44YieG4tSUmNhSAwXKighdx5g9bUN4SXFWxpeOzkd2WbnQ4g/w636-h640/bst%201.JPG" width="636" /></a></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">It might have only been the one camera or it could have been all of them but this alleged contravention was a week after the clocks went forward so every single PCN had the wrong time on it and can be beaten. An honest council would go back and unilaterally cancel them all, and issue refunds, but somehow Mr Mustard doubts that will happen. This is why we need an ombudsman or similar who could direct an enforcement authority to behave morally and legally. There is no current mechanism to deal with this sort of error, it is up to each person and not everyone has Mr Mustard's willingness to fight petty officialdom.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">End. </span><br /></p><p><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-16111518079768973192023-07-24T21:45:00.002+01:002023-07-24T21:45:11.275+01:00What is empathy?<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard found the question harder to answer than he at first supposed. He has seen many letters from Barnet Council in which they say they empathise and then they mercilessly stick the boot in so he thought that the words were hollow.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">He looked up 'empathy' in his Concise Oxford and the definition there means that the writer identified mentally with the motorist (and so fully comprehended their situation). Having so identified they then refuse the plea for mercy although Mr Mustard thought that having shown empathy they would have to be kind, it seems he is wrong about that.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard can't see the point of it anyway. The law says the council has to consider the representations (challenge) which was made and then say if they agree with it or not. There is no requirement to empathise, sympathise or show any feeling whatsoever.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is the challenge which was made.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEinMRmyfrYg7bNQu-lX2zxhnTchezlOMeEQapLP59324N7t-GDu6U_NiJdrYLOj6BLxSpwMghBmiJVCoA9tlUf8kWXrHl7i4ixoZpJpcCXWjQeyjlw7RKgZ8mlL93bSwpqr7XEoAR9luXEuiXJkNtRLyyZ_pXBCxBtPUzjI0EWRbe3BsQiQ4VnUzontPFU/s341/empathy1.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="279" data-original-width="341" height="328" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEinMRmyfrYg7bNQu-lX2zxhnTchezlOMeEQapLP59324N7t-GDu6U_NiJdrYLOj6BLxSpwMghBmiJVCoA9tlUf8kWXrHl7i4ixoZpJpcCXWjQeyjlw7RKgZ8mlL93bSwpqr7XEoAR9luXEuiXJkNtRLyyZ_pXBCxBtPUzjI0EWRbe3BsQiQ4VnUzontPFU/w400-h328/empathy1.png" width="400" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Clearly difficult circumstances which could be verified if there was any doubt by a doctor at the surgery in question.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is Barnet Council's response.</span></p><p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCfT4M_QpnIa2Rm0zKOoQl__tlaQU3kKAwmscKrstUeeygVnuPbsw5POhc4TZ1WGUnGw1vrdPjtLbpNa-APkc_gnulQKTZEqZWJNpSof6k6f3_BFnbG0KtSfpgTe0no5ljQ4rHbjHr64eo-AXYJ4NHXhK8Wn0xCLHAE0sl2QOkoJ0PWKt5TCWmW409jSw/s1194/empathy2.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="638" data-original-width="1194" height="342" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgCfT4M_QpnIa2Rm0zKOoQl__tlaQU3kKAwmscKrstUeeygVnuPbsw5POhc4TZ1WGUnGw1vrdPjtLbpNa-APkc_gnulQKTZEqZWJNpSof6k6f3_BFnbG0KtSfpgTe0no5ljQ4rHbjHr64eo-AXYJ4NHXhK8Wn0xCLHAE0sl2QOkoJ0PWKt5TCWmW409jSw/w640-h342/empathy2.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">There is needless repetition here. The motorist told the council that payment was made for the wrong vehicle so why do they tell him that? The council are correct that if the PCN goes missing from the windscreen it has been validly served. Years ago PCNs went missing a lot (Mr Mustard suspected traffic wardens were serving then removing the PCNs in order to prevent the discount being taken, then missing PCNs stopped and now it seems they have started again).</span></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-UQUYQwMxDKnpv4-ZLLzPTnmnu5-D3bIdqlPOzrn8ZaIFzs0wAJEha4jxsXj8CX8CeO5C57Sj4wateKQh2H8u1bF9aV3_mnLonrviFbaEA37HAuvgfvSiJe8-IJl3KbkkYRkEyVvBT6h3GvKnLu_2yuVwHyUdOfC0Ljyw9013HcjVNbTKd5lULqo_toA/s1202/empathy3.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="808" data-original-width="1202" height="430" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-UQUYQwMxDKnpv4-ZLLzPTnmnu5-D3bIdqlPOzrn8ZaIFzs0wAJEha4jxsXj8CX8CeO5C57Sj4wateKQh2H8u1bF9aV3_mnLonrviFbaEA37HAuvgfvSiJe8-IJl3KbkkYRkEyVvBT6h3GvKnLu_2yuVwHyUdOfC0Ljyw9013HcjVNbTKd5lULqo_toA/w640-h430/empathy3.JPG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Barnet Council state that the PCN is valid. That wasn't doubted by the motorist. What was being requested was a goodwill cancellation. That has not been granted and the reasoning is because a contravention occurred, one which the motorist agreed had occurred, the PCN won't be cancelled, so this is something of a Kafkaesque refusal.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard found this explanation of <a href="https://psychcentral.com/lib/why-do-some-people-lack-empathy" target="_blank">Empathy</a>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh6Nwm8LltzzQlsQtAVNVRQu8bHM5tVVXy8D6BGyo4X4sINnaGw0U7csbUcHsdsqKU6B3ynhiA_z8HPBhQ9esqYQ_GEbwh3t0Egt72V2Ri7IR8vaCTjjCOh68eoSZ3pzKx6Oe-JuDX8ArSzf-lby6360LnCFEzZJCEnFCm2AmhENiQTNKdO0NR72sF_yxs/s706/empathy%20definition.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="706" data-original-width="531" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh6Nwm8LltzzQlsQtAVNVRQu8bHM5tVVXy8D6BGyo4X4sINnaGw0U7csbUcHsdsqKU6B3ynhiA_z8HPBhQ9esqYQ_GEbwh3t0Egt72V2Ri7IR8vaCTjjCOh68eoSZ3pzKx6Oe-JuDX8ArSzf-lby6360LnCFEzZJCEnFCm2AmhENiQTNKdO0NR72sF_yxs/w482-h640/empathy%20definition.JPG" width="482" /></a></div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">If the council (and a body corporate doesn't have feelings so it must be the writer who we take to be a human being and not AI, although doubtless that is the future) have cognitive empathy they aren't distressed by what the motorist suffered and can reject the representations without feeling anything. That appears to be the only type of empathy that fits the refusal letter.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard doesn't think the council have emotional empathy because the motorist is regarded simply as a PCN reference, they aren't a real person, the writer and the recipient will never meet. All letters from Barnet Council are sent out in the name of a manager but he can't possibly write or even see them all so there is a distance between the writer and the letter in any event.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">There clearly isn't compassionate empathy as that would probably lead the writer to cancel the PCN.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Having decided that, by definition, a type of empathy has been shown, but not the type that most readers of this type of letter would think, they would most probably think of sympathy, kindness and understanding which would lead to a favourable outcome, Mr Mustard thinks it would perhaps be better if this often seen standard phrase in Notices of Rejection was deleted from the library of standard responses. It is a word that clearly doesn't have a plain meaning.</span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard does have simple, easily understood words for what he thinks of the attitude of Barnet Council in this case, a council that has not had any revenue loss by the understandable error which was made.</span></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The council is:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Vile</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mean</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Heartless</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mercenary</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Miserable</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Tactless</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Feel free to add your own epithets.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Even though the motorist did make an error Mr Mustard has taken up the Appeal to an independent adjudicator at the tribunal. An adjudicator is not allowed by law to cancel a PCN due to mitigating circumstances, a fact of which enforcement authorities often remind motorists who are contemplating an Appeal, but they can for procedural impropriety. Mr Mustard is good at finding those, if they exist, and one does in this case. An Appeal has been started.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">End.<br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-20576369205448393172023-07-14T16:21:00.005+01:002023-07-14T16:21:59.917+01:00Havering Council gives itself a pointless kicking<p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">A 'school street' traffic order restricts access to this crescent in Harold Hill at school opening and closing times. That is because, Mr Mustard thinks, there is a rear access point to the school from this probably otherwise quiet crescent.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjby7DAlw364dPK9RNnmScKTuokEX0WI2DzL0gEaorVxsWNsWdDgj981PN6W-agwXqGsC-jm2B3N58xfMKvJ_wi4pcqGEhOoxC4yzfyjj4LqH4zvaArdmRbYkelaQCY5vugk-c-3iYlAQiiVguZg-7kT0aY1eQe3RaVHLQMBn_werMh2v87prFv68Zkvk0/s1319/gsv%20dpd.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="872" data-original-width="1319" height="424" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjby7DAlw364dPK9RNnmScKTuokEX0WI2DzL0gEaorVxsWNsWdDgj981PN6W-agwXqGsC-jm2B3N58xfMKvJ_wi4pcqGEhOoxC4yzfyjj4LqH4zvaArdmRbYkelaQCY5vugk-c-3iYlAQiiVguZg-7kT0aY1eQe3RaVHLQMBn_werMh2v87prFv68Zkvk0/w640-h424/gsv%20dpd.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br />A Havering Council entered the crescent and was sent a PCN by, wait for it, Havering Council.<p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjF2UjVqBAiNoHAO2MrENRU0VArJdw2HPBNF8fJBE-yR3n-Mm8uHA4GtSUKNi-7smU_0iW-JghYsKNfbW-IAuo2xHKxXRjYADh_kxfT4-QJJRZts5paUTpDjriKOBr9TY6yFzX_4NB06P1D_-g2OMCV516mpzpIXUrf0v4mQvymm9uAUE141CnIIBtBeZA/s717/pcn.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="717" data-original-width="643" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjF2UjVqBAiNoHAO2MrENRU0VArJdw2HPBNF8fJBE-yR3n-Mm8uHA4GtSUKNi-7smU_0iW-JghYsKNfbW-IAuo2xHKxXRjYADh_kxfT4-QJJRZts5paUTpDjriKOBr9TY6yFzX_4NB06P1D_-g2OMCV516mpzpIXUrf0v4mQvymm9uAUE141CnIIBtBeZA/w574-h640/pcn.PNG" width="574" /></a></div><br />The council have redacted the vehicle registration but it is already in the public domain, so that was stupid and pointless.<br /><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjEHdo5xz1SZxWW9TRfUcAwaw11g-GhKwHCnRdx0TdqauSTsQPWNEojpDS04zG5rohQ7JydkCp24wRSQ7mmZ2O382IvLDqXSoCoedcK0hsd67qxlvpnYeJRx29Dpgx-579n-pcL7Pr5C2DGRheK5vMDfF3lEX9HtWVb31-ltRWUztkXjE7ygt23Bo9yhEk/s905/eta%20register.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="839" data-original-width="905" height="594" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjEHdo5xz1SZxWW9TRfUcAwaw11g-GhKwHCnRdx0TdqauSTsQPWNEojpDS04zG5rohQ7JydkCp24wRSQ7mmZ2O382IvLDqXSoCoedcK0hsd67qxlvpnYeJRx29Dpgx-579n-pcL7Pr5C2DGRheK5vMDfF3lEX9HtWVb31-ltRWUztkXjE7ygt23Bo9yhEk/w640-h594/eta%20register.PNG" width="640" /></a></div>Mr Mustard asked to see the formal representations and here they are.<p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyKgFtYM0_YxEV_-0ITYmf-5mDwYIcuqpzWXDNWqGDDgsmQqibw4MD_3rsRJMju2ton22KCnA85SmGOUZb5uXp6F2UFAaIulp3DEF1k_Wq1y_jAz5hAKplOs1qorgP2LhnHXSqeC-0lgFMVs-OqVgR9Vu19Fb5b8ZpIQRM1tU8dBr--JH7VQGdKPtaB9w/s1301/formal%20reps.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="839" data-original-width="1301" height="412" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhyKgFtYM0_YxEV_-0ITYmf-5mDwYIcuqpzWXDNWqGDDgsmQqibw4MD_3rsRJMju2ton22KCnA85SmGOUZb5uXp6F2UFAaIulp3DEF1k_Wq1y_jAz5hAKplOs1qorgP2LhnHXSqeC-0lgFMVs-OqVgR9Vu19Fb5b8ZpIQRM1tU8dBr--JH7VQGdKPtaB9w/w640-h412/formal%20reps.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><span style="font-family: verdana;"><br /></span><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Fire inspections could be planned around the banned times. An emergency plumber wouldn't be able to enter the crescent in a dire emergency because he can't obtain a permit in minutes. The emergency would have to wait. Clearly there would be no sympathy from the council if you were an emergency plumber. Stick your finger in the pipe Mrs until 9am and then I will be along! Similarly your home deliveries of food or groceries and parcels generally will have to be delivered at other times.<br /></span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard </span><span style="font-family: verdana;">doesn't see a 'block' in that crescent, just lots of semi-detached houses.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Guess what, Havering Council rejected Havering Council's representations as no proof was supplied.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhP_jC1YYTF6QCXQe6xpE7RqMQ1-jHBaETAhlBb1nUFNoLymMOoLrJ2oSDhF4dF4jYTP2SJ8fclpf5qX5ND6ZE0g9Q8JPY3gQicAzpMABo0H3Z6sdo_FYKdt7e8xwVdViNp4mWvpKRdB8GbweJ0BObhAkZjJhDwHhzQoUbQ53-uUXe5s_J2l5LV8-ko3OE/s975/nor1.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="824" data-original-width="975" height="540" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhP_jC1YYTF6QCXQe6xpE7RqMQ1-jHBaETAhlBb1nUFNoLymMOoLrJ2oSDhF4dF4jYTP2SJ8fclpf5qX5ND6ZE0g9Q8JPY3gQicAzpMABo0H3Z6sdo_FYKdt7e8xwVdViNp4mWvpKRdB8GbweJ0BObhAkZjJhDwHhzQoUbQ53-uUXe5s_J2l5LV8-ko3OE/w640-h540/nor1.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4aYJKH1c02r3Y-2k6fx_CnPXn8R-R4wHddZ4JUDG45ajqwHAYAcQV2hTxHLd3NDDgS3jAQFlq_3tTL0VTuO5mzayMD6NrG7w1SpfWt8klUp2xq3OCsTBSlHkCLWV2OYEWtJgt1xlivuQsJojV3tdenfNtLzrB0hT4bZqWyBnHeGMvDwyvObw9JVKPDdg/s975/nor2.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="688" data-original-width="975" height="452" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4aYJKH1c02r3Y-2k6fx_CnPXn8R-R4wHddZ4JUDG45ajqwHAYAcQV2hTxHLd3NDDgS3jAQFlq_3tTL0VTuO5mzayMD6NrG7w1SpfWt8klUp2xq3OCsTBSlHkCLWV2OYEWtJgt1xlivuQsJojV3tdenfNtLzrB0hT4bZqWyBnHeGMvDwyvObw9JVKPDdg/w640-h452/nor2.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">The Notice of Rejection was improper in asking for proof to be provided at that stage. This is what an adjudicator held in a Redbridge case:</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjU3qKrRFDJBhxxvcHaMlGr9BQV4xf-0ryqNlnHwuUIXafJnRIGeGiX9cauvmlPE8Y9AfHuVv368CofPwEidZxC78EJaEbaPD4zCMWgPUj0aMLq2qS0jN-buBGCJLFeQVZ9Uga0FKwNbH1e8qwmbL68KfF-Y6NpwrWnGTBRVZyBZFJEJ-To42xB3-Tj2fI/s501/furtehr%20info.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="501" data-original-width="463" height="640" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjU3qKrRFDJBhxxvcHaMlGr9BQV4xf-0ryqNlnHwuUIXafJnRIGeGiX9cauvmlPE8Y9AfHuVv368CofPwEidZxC78EJaEbaPD4zCMWgPUj0aMLq2qS0jN-buBGCJLFeQVZ9Uga0FKwNbH1e8qwmbL68KfF-Y6NpwrWnGTBRVZyBZFJEJ-To42xB3-Tj2fI/w592-h640/furtehr%20info.PNG" width="592" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Havering Council had to make a decision Havering Council's representation as it stood when made. The Havering Council employee who received the Notice of Rejection did the right thing, he/she started an Appeal at London Tribunals which cost Havering Council a £25 fee.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjFjyuNXHfDpNIyp1cCHyxfW8il7nSwk4NyzuHyXCpv2lEW7HLX_-8rLFSMRjwL5oraV39C6krYbOYyugSxmaLIZoDTnaxMVOhxefOxUBCx7iAEFrQ64gnzdB37ewQOffy_2XlUOG_k7RFEmtfqcsy7UoIrVc3cXeDERJculLnRFHFnSoB04sDwJWjN9bg/s713/grounds%20of%20appeal.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="296" data-original-width="713" height="266" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjFjyuNXHfDpNIyp1cCHyxfW8il7nSwk4NyzuHyXCpv2lEW7HLX_-8rLFSMRjwL5oraV39C6krYbOYyugSxmaLIZoDTnaxMVOhxefOxUBCx7iAEFrQ64gnzdB37ewQOffy_2XlUOG_k7RFEmtfqcsy7UoIrVc3cXeDERJculLnRFHFnSoB04sDwJWjN9bg/w640-h266/grounds%20of%20appeal.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Once received Havering Council discontinued the Appeal against itself as it sent itself further information. The reason was given as <i><span style="color: #2b00fe;">'The evidence requested in the Notice of Rejection was provided to the tribunal.'</span></i></span><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard thinks this whole episode was an exercise in futility. Had Havering Council won, Havering Council would have had to pay itself for the PCN.</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard also asked the number of PCNs that Havering Council sent itself in the year to 31 March 2023. The answer was 110.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The council is 110 times stupid.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The end. </span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-18967928899923639202023-07-09T20:48:00.003+01:002023-07-09T20:48:26.638+01:00Honesty and parking - words rarely seen in the same sentence.<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPyRvkBj6XJ9KpDDWY2KhCU8rrEXoECjx9p3IORRzMP5qWaF1qM8oN6BHbAuhD36U5rqVzcwaVr4gSeCXhhFuRbHBXPpny5TUYP6xmOIPdYzy7N7yg_Z1OXcIf9d942OXhyQQJGawCXR3VO3YQimZg9Spsj_3UtkNdeLWI8gnCiLST3UN61XkE2awHbIE/s1496/puller%20road.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="893" data-original-width="1496" height="382" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPyRvkBj6XJ9KpDDWY2KhCU8rrEXoECjx9p3IORRzMP5qWaF1qM8oN6BHbAuhD36U5rqVzcwaVr4gSeCXhhFuRbHBXPpny5TUYP6xmOIPdYzy7N7yg_Z1OXcIf9d942OXhyQQJGawCXR3VO3YQimZg9Spsj_3UtkNdeLWI8gnCiLST3UN61XkE2awHbIE/w640-h382/puller%20road.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Puller Road in Chipping Barnet is old. The cottages on the right date from 1869 when the horse and cart were transport of the day. You can find old photographs of Barnet <a href="https://www.francisfrith.com/barnet/photos">here.</a></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></div><div style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard has worked in High / Chipping Barnet since 1987 and his time here pre-dates the controlled parking restrictions in the town. He knows that 'traffic wardens' have a list of locations in which they do not issue PCNs for parking partially on the foot way / pavement. Mr Mustard is certain that Puller Road, Clifford Road and Sebright Road are such locations due to how narrow they are.</span></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Needless to say a resident of Puller Road received a PCN.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Here is the alleged contravention (from the Notice to Owner)<br /></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiacQFb36Aqb2i0KMIyGOhSi8Ppj1qF2_2xDg3zDpmBQoBU_UsxepSV_uUrwuwKTIUxZfTpE-vpGbvKE4h-IRGGongF5hrGTKfjLwkZXMAD7yw27WW3PJG-qTqjd6fl25KtGIlleNjF60x3sa7ACVM33MuH4wP_GhMysYA6NyMISAtyv1LoQ5-RXGOcJos/s694/puller%20road%20nto.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="200" data-original-width="694" height="184" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiacQFb36Aqb2i0KMIyGOhSi8Ppj1qF2_2xDg3zDpmBQoBU_UsxepSV_uUrwuwKTIUxZfTpE-vpGbvKE4h-IRGGongF5hrGTKfjLwkZXMAD7yw27WW3PJG-qTqjd6fl25KtGIlleNjF60x3sa7ACVM33MuH4wP_GhMysYA6NyMISAtyv1LoQ5-RXGOcJos/w640-h184/puller%20road%20nto.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">The challenge to the PCN was duly submitted</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzPxe_ZX45edQ2XhWlMacVuIsZXjbjJ5A40OCtRisur_Cb90ULE0_p7iBCAO8mIt2pvtrysmQG4s3RWGRYr14pEG5WCE5CCbFNqZ4nqP9xePn-YAJDa8KTw3U9WWwmjackOhHg1-Aj0zE-5MTqHZdVylslRYpr2yNeBDBpqw_BYkvR3imW_imrfQP9ih0/s1238/puller%20inf%20challenge.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="175" data-original-width="1238" height="90" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhzPxe_ZX45edQ2XhWlMacVuIsZXjbjJ5A40OCtRisur_Cb90ULE0_p7iBCAO8mIt2pvtrysmQG4s3RWGRYr14pEG5WCE5CCbFNqZ4nqP9xePn-YAJDa8KTw3U9WWwmjackOhHg1-Aj0zE-5MTqHZdVylslRYpr2yNeBDBpqw_BYkvR3imW_imrfQP9ih0/w640-h90/puller%20inf%20challenge.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">A bang on correct challenge. Yes, it was rejected and in as sanctimonious a manner as is usual:</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1F24hLKkeHQt2ve70_N-9FpBpcoFx5fMy5evqnIKW9ZVacZQEfeaxHU_47-eLf9RGNLIIeB5ZLkW1fcRgDcIfMBmVNEPybdKGTc_EEJGwsorRg3n5BRQ4I9M9MlRTbGA8Vb6Zw3khNOlGOBO5oTCBqdv-ZqIYoasgqi5aa9LGYCjigpKrHvimydgDxF4/s699/inf%20rej%20puller.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="662" data-original-width="699" height="606" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh1F24hLKkeHQt2ve70_N-9FpBpcoFx5fMy5evqnIKW9ZVacZQEfeaxHU_47-eLf9RGNLIIeB5ZLkW1fcRgDcIfMBmVNEPybdKGTc_EEJGwsorRg3n5BRQ4I9M9MlRTbGA8Vb6Zw3khNOlGOBO5oTCBqdv-ZqIYoasgqi5aa9LGYCjigpKrHvimydgDxF4/w640-h606/inf%20rej%20puller.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><span style="font-family: verdana;">Supported and advised by Mr Mustard and other experts on PePiPoo the resident stood firm and waited for the Notice to Owner.</span><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Once it arrived the formal representations were submitted by Mr Mustard: <br /></span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiGUBxwQ0Lnm_MNogoI4OcAHLQPQFYdxE8SKMiTGTSBXZVGdZoS7gWzGZq6X3Uv3lc3kNocV0TuEM9pDdf39pWkTT7EjzPpj6SSIyyAJ46_2Sam0q6vmzuZyjDeYs0XKTVimHtOk764U-Fmru5RGcGwedtZaDVe6hLM_iOxIYEGHNeNggsZelkgoIUerjw/s707/bogdan.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="707" data-original-width="481" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiGUBxwQ0Lnm_MNogoI4OcAHLQPQFYdxE8SKMiTGTSBXZVGdZoS7gWzGZq6X3Uv3lc3kNocV0TuEM9pDdf39pWkTT7EjzPpj6SSIyyAJ46_2Sam0q6vmzuZyjDeYs0XKTVimHtOk764U-Fmru5RGcGwedtZaDVe6hLM_iOxIYEGHNeNggsZelkgoIUerjw/s16000/bogdan.PNG" /></a></div><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Later on Mr Mustard realised that he had only seen the data for 3 months but the lack of PCNs for pavement parking was still evident, that manner of parking clearly being tolerated. Not though, according to the council, in their parallel universe:</span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipaV6Pmj3-TMgw6Zs1AHjCUJVoR-pbr7oIRtvHvVv0hN643fN_VJ1M_Aejc237Z7MfsZ3HgBUrvSwXVSRw3V6mvpX71srqPjrKWERVO7gU0-UxlcPthiOEZBEUrpka4xXYQvneElUKBJXI_vRsckplgei2JJyg5IK8S9ZlSEHrgNQnbmGxLtqhnX0DQ7E/s617/puller%20nor1.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="397" data-original-width="617" height="412" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEipaV6Pmj3-TMgw6Zs1AHjCUJVoR-pbr7oIRtvHvVv0hN643fN_VJ1M_Aejc237Z7MfsZ3HgBUrvSwXVSRw3V6mvpX71srqPjrKWERVO7gU0-UxlcPthiOEZBEUrpka4xXYQvneElUKBJXI_vRsckplgei2JJyg5IK8S9ZlSEHrgNQnbmGxLtqhnX0DQ7E/w640-h412/puller%20nor1.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg65mo0ntdZR0g0bZkBtbDuzhPTfCD69nUWQ-3RdvV-QMU6Pd8Ft6nsx-oWspX4YmClild-WJwuhijyJ9HdvAl5fUpe3z8rWGPDAfHg-0o7ilpaXMu3tJq-U49DCqug-qsGADHe-bF796UgXgiJ3rCIsjmY1DSyQoRaVAQdue3ZbFeCAv4a6EM0Gp7FQuo/s588/puller%20nor2.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="129" data-original-width="588" height="140" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg65mo0ntdZR0g0bZkBtbDuzhPTfCD69nUWQ-3RdvV-QMU6Pd8Ft6nsx-oWspX4YmClild-WJwuhijyJ9HdvAl5fUpe3z8rWGPDAfHg-0o7ilpaXMu3tJq-U49DCqug-qsGADHe-bF796UgXgiJ3rCIsjmY1DSyQoRaVAQdue3ZbFeCAv4a6EM0Gp7FQuo/w640-h140/puller%20nor2.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">Mr Mustard had an ace card up his sleeve and therefore an Appeal was started at the tribunal, the home of the independent Environment and Traffic Adjudicator. Pretty quickly the council decided to to <span style="color: red;">do not contest</span> the Appeal and the PCN was cancelled (after refusing to do so twice previously). What was it that caused a change of heart? Being right royally caught out, that is what. This document, obtained using Freedom of Information legislation ran a coach and horses through the council's rejections.</span></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwzaN2yiaXrrA_2S4xp7e8nVoNkAyh2jkigb08uCBx5BD3IDSKXwBrUPWJMpwkiH9cpq4nMzpU5I9w_gUO011QSDKA8ReqiWVaztF73v0MxxuCIG8yX34Qi04Q_LBNfCB5mGBTRuhKgxtnLhGgodR3UXmvR6wMI6_siCog7KGgz-DQuWhfUe-bwOojBns/s886/fp%20sus%201.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="545" data-original-width="886" height="394" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwzaN2yiaXrrA_2S4xp7e8nVoNkAyh2jkigb08uCBx5BD3IDSKXwBrUPWJMpwkiH9cpq4nMzpU5I9w_gUO011QSDKA8ReqiWVaztF73v0MxxuCIG8yX34Qi04Q_LBNfCB5mGBTRuhKgxtnLhGgodR3UXmvR6wMI6_siCog7KGgz-DQuWhfUe-bwOojBns/w640-h394/fp%20sus%201.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhd4mTfMDvu5FHsqwxhMxQgWEmAgNtuti2oIqehjd8PoPG5XMIFtgcI9YfeZCrCVGcVrrE_MJAWc6JNCcqJCWwXgyhG3OP4vI71f38RHvVyTZC1kArzGjhhEfsoG5PqTGxmfQx9_gjc8v4HxpMGI3WHUNOulvdxlE33p20SsKA0MTBOQ9-Ca78J_LnC6wg/s854/fp%20sus%202.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="854" data-original-width="207" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhd4mTfMDvu5FHsqwxhMxQgWEmAgNtuti2oIqehjd8PoPG5XMIFtgcI9YfeZCrCVGcVrrE_MJAWc6JNCcqJCWwXgyhG3OP4vI71f38RHvVyTZC1kArzGjhhEfsoG5PqTGxmfQx9_gjc8v4HxpMGI3WHUNOulvdxlE33p20SsKA0MTBOQ9-Ca78J_LnC6wg/s16000/fp%20sus%202.PNG" /></a></div><br /><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjZU1rDD2i5TN0Bwb2orePX28D_8p_HfFPSokyY12zfCwzNkFcwUJEotI8c9CID9xNQdNt_jwyqRuLDP3p8b07FR_zXMSYneTA4xt_StgE0QbCS_I756x3VdOvAmE0oR41sPK_9j1e3XXXa7msL2FSY00EETbAlr8NM4ORH79z6iWPrh3eOZ0GakJBRsD4/s208/fp%20sus%203.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="85" data-original-width="208" height="131" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjZU1rDD2i5TN0Bwb2orePX28D_8p_HfFPSokyY12zfCwzNkFcwUJEotI8c9CID9xNQdNt_jwyqRuLDP3p8b07FR_zXMSYneTA4xt_StgE0QbCS_I756x3VdOvAmE0oR41sPK_9j1e3XXXa7msL2FSY00EETbAlr8NM4ORH79z6iWPrh3eOZ0GakJBRsD4/w320-h131/fp%20sus%203.PNG" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">This response should be on the council website of FOI responses but isn't, goodness knows why, perhaps because it will cost them money if the public know the truth?</span></p><p style="text-align: justify;"><span style="font-family: verdana;">What you can glean from this blog post is that if the council think you don't know what they are up to they will happily feed you a load of old baloney in order to collect the money for an invalid PCN.<br /></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">Don't just meekly pay PCNs, consult Mr Mustard by email at <a href="mailto:mrmustard@zoho.com">mrmustard@zoho.com</a> and instead of giving your money to the council for nothing at all you can donate some to the North London Hospice for Mr Mustard's help when he gets the council off your back. Win, win.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">End.<br /></span></p><p><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4189021335579222470.post-15671553344072896662023-06-14T23:45:00.001+01:002023-06-16T07:33:01.283+01:00PePiPoo - down the pan? No, it is back on line<p><span style="font-family: verdana;">No-one seems to be able to log in to PePiPoo and the worst is feared. <span style="color: #2b00fe;">The fears were unfounded.<br /></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"><strike>So that motorists aren't left high and dry</strike> a number of the contributing experts, including Mr Mustard, have started their own forum, which you can find <a href="https://ftla.createaforum.com/index.php" target="_blank">here</a>.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;"> </span></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiysU2hG6K7SS0D-a-fljn2iZv5ZE6VYpGS-EnRPURHf107UoQkH7IbedTeMkWW7fbQuucYzfx98cltWpOCmo0a-r73TgeYZie_fKSKpomcKsFXlqtj1j5GCy24uhZk7QMyRqPfdQP8HJn40Y0TcUOzT7pPbbHfK8DQ_6-aQM5S9YiBXztjgOfZIXMq/s1263/free%20traffic%20legal%20advice.PNG" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="749" data-original-width="1263" height="380" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiysU2hG6K7SS0D-a-fljn2iZv5ZE6VYpGS-EnRPURHf107UoQkH7IbedTeMkWW7fbQuucYzfx98cltWpOCmo0a-r73TgeYZie_fKSKpomcKsFXlqtj1j5GCy24uhZk7QMyRqPfdQP8HJn40Y0TcUOzT7pPbbHfK8DQ_6-aQM5S9YiBXztjgOfZIXMq/w640-h380/free%20traffic%20legal%20advice.PNG" width="640" /></a></div><p><br /> <span style="font-family: verdana;"><strike>If you had a thread on PePiPoo and still need help please start a new thread.</strike> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">You now have a choice of forums.<strike><br /></strike></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: verdana;">End.</span><br /></p>Mr Mustardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12522242686839965655noreply@blogger.com0