Showing posts with label tilling road. Show all posts
Showing posts with label tilling road. Show all posts

21 November 2018

Tilling Road - Barnet Council get it right!

Tilling Road into Brentfield Gardens is a route that many motorists wrongly use to save about 10 seconds going up to the roundabout and they find it costs them £130.

Mr Mustard doesn't usually fight PCNs at that location as there are two no left turn signs, an arrow on the road and a blue go straight arrow so his sympathy runs out.

However, he came across a tribunal decision which held that the vital sign on the left was turned away from the driver, which is why the no entry sign is visible, the sign you need to see is on the back.

He challenged a recent PCN and to his surprise the council made a correct and reasonable decision. He isn't used to those.

Incidentally, in a moving traffic case there isn't a PCN and a Notice to Owner, only a PCN. The danger of cut and paste.

If you get a Tilling Road PCN best check the photographs on line here

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard

28 February 2018

The Tilling Road trap turn

The no left turn marked by the red arrow has caught out thousands of drivers and it is hard to fight against such PCN as the contravention is captured by cctv. The below photographs may assist you if you are out of time for the discount and wish to challenge your PCN and go to the tribunal. About the only prospect of success is to argue that the signage is not adequate.

You can download any of these photographs which you think help your case. These photographs and the annotations are from a grateful reader.



add the arrow on the road and the word 'slow' for more signs in view






You are on your own fighting PCNs at this location as Mr Mustard does not think he can prevail at the tribunal but a motorist in person might win.

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard

5 March 2017

Tilling Road - no left turn (at Brent Coss)

Sign clutter, 9 in 25m
Today Mr Mustard went to take a look for himself at the no left turn from Tilling Rd into Brentfield Gardens which is one of the least respected banned turns in Barnet. It was, for a few minutes sunny and Mr Mustard was propping up the lamp standard above the 'A' in Ahead and was pleased to see everybody drive straight on along Tilling Road under the underpass. You could sometimes see the queue backed up to the far end of the underpass. One minicab slowed and dived to the left before Mr Mustard could react but as he wasn't wearing a yellow vest and didn't have his whistle on him (a whistle works wonders for stopping cars) and this is a dangerous place to step into the road (there is a crossing point as there is dimpled paving but you really need to cross briskly) he decided to let the driver receive a PCN.

What happened next was that a car coming from the right, a Mercedes saloon, decided to pull out when there wasn't room and take out a blue Honda that was minding its own business and proceeding perfectly steadily in the correct direction. The Merc driver wanted to argue with the lady, who had to climb out of the wrong side of her Honda as she could not open the door, until the lady spotted Mr Mustard looking on and he gave her a wave and a friendly smile and then the errant driver knew the game was up. The Merc was 100% in the wrong and given the availability of a witness Mr Mustard expects that the Merc's insurers will cough up without quibble.

not the guilty Merc
At 3.30pm on 5 March 2017 the road was effectively blocked and so the only escape route entirely on tarmac was the banned left turn. Will the council still issue PCN, probably because the cctv does not cover the blocked section of road? Yes, most definitely.

Do let Mr Mustard know if you make representations on the grounds that the road was blocked and they are rejected.

Yours frugally

Mr Mustard